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Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Rizer phoenix, Jul 21, 2020.

  1. Rizer phoenix

    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    1) What is better for staff (using Finale as main and maaaybe occasional burst) :
    Int%10 matk%10 int20/21 Cspd+20% or
    Int%10 matk%10 int20/21 Dex+..(whatever the number is) %.

    2) The new buff for phantom,
    Is it worth it to use at lvl 10?
    If so, it needs phantom at lvl 10 yes, but what bout storm reaper (that actually buffs it)? Lvl 1 is nuff or lvl 10 too?
    On that note, should l have spinning slash at lvl 5 or 10?

    3) ...Do dw (need to) use sword skills -w-; )? First 3, hard hit, astute and trigger :v ?
     
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    2. PS will still be considered as placed skill when you canceled the invicibility, so i think this intended to boost DS damage when you avoid being hitted, not for SC replacement. Tho you can use it as long range main dps when you can't get near the monster at all
     
  3. Rizer phoenix

    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    Oh no no, not replace sc @-@) as a secondary or even tertiary dps skill (if SR is needed at 10 to utilize this boost fully) SC will be main ofc
    But thanks for answer -w-)/
     
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    cspd% only boost base cspd gained by level, dex and agi. cspd from equipment is unaffected.
    dex% is only better than dex+ when you have more than 100 points on dex. if you do, it will not only boost cspd but also matk and hit rate.

    the cspd boost from dex% is lower than cspd%, but you also get a little matk and hit.
    the difference is not very significant on Finale, though, so i would use the one that costs less.
     
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    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    I...see -w-; ) ..
    I would have around 260+ Int, 210+ dex and around 30 vit ._.) So that fits the criteria..
    As for cspd?
    ..well..l dont think I need it for finale -w-) l prefer somewhat matk gain than cspd, as l would be having 2k+ cspd anyway..
    Dex% it is -w-)/
    Thank for clearing it *^*)/!

    Thats technically 2/3 que down *^*; )
    1 more to go xD
     
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    hard hit if you want/need flinch, but since DS has a tumble skill it's not a must.

    astute is quick and cheap, good for combos as the duration can last for the entire combo and not just the next skill.
    saves the need for critical rate on gear or can bypass critical resistance.
    but punish ray is better for proration and works at range. so there are alternatives.

    trigger slash for ampr is not really necessary, as shawdowstep has the same effect. (you can't stack them either, since both effects disappear on the next skill used)
    the motion speed buff on the next skill can still be used, but i don't know how much it matters for DS.
    i won't speed up auto-attacks, though.
     
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    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    I see, so not a necessity then~
    That..saves me some sp -w-)/
    Think u can answer second one too :'v ?
    While it was answered..the reply wasnt exactly what l asked (got new info thou, so it's a plus)

    Ps:
    No offence to anyone ><) time and answers are appreciated regardless!
     
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    i never had tier4 DS skills, so i have no idea what is different now.
    there's no rule of thumb either, since some skills do scale their buff duration and/or power with skill level and some don't.
     
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    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    I see -w-)/
    Thanks u!
     

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