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Some weird damage reduction i notice

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Pirate, Sep 3, 2020.

  1. Pirate

    Pirate New Member

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    is it just me or the new bosses these days are getting MORE reduction like for example critical damage reduction(?)
    i'm just wondering, mostly on finstern, its def, mdef, and resist aren't REALLY that high even for ulti modes, but i notice that mage doing more greater damage than physical class despite of having same resistance, and on physical class, i notice that using a high atk class like 2h or halb WILL have a greater dmg than class with low atks?

    i can't really explain well, but i think there is like a critical damage reduction happening on some bosses right now, or can somehow clarify me with all of these? :confused:
     
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    Monsters' physical and magical resistance can be different. Their def and mdef too. Also, while finstern has some crit reduction applied on physical attacks, magical attack crits on finstern sometimes.
    Toram's dmg calculation has something like (player's atk – target's def + etc.)×multipliers, so higher atk weapons do better on ulti bosses, which have their def increased.
     
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    Unbelievable
     
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    Perhaps is because finstern have lower physical proration rate ( 1% ) and higher Magic proration rate ( 10% )

    CAP for each types of proration is +150% ( total deal 250% damage ), with 10% Magic proration rate mean we only need 15 normal/physical skill to reach +150%, but for physical proration we need 150 normal/Magic skill to reach the CAP.

    By the way, finstern Def&Mdef is 250, below 50% HP become x2.08 (there is another action that will increase he Def for another 1.28x, but I not sure what is that) .it’s Phy&Magic Resistant is 6%, Below 50% HP +20% for both.
     
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    U have the new boss def and res data? Mine stuck at zelbuse
     
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    sorry for the wrong phrases/words i use there, my english is bad.
    what i mean is i got both same setup on my 2h and halb, and running ulti on fins, we all know that halb atk is always more higher than 2h thanks to their more weapon atk base, i'm using both hell reaper, same refine xtal, and overall same arm, add, and ring.
    now i am testing alot of runs on it, i notice that they got a little difference in dmg only despite of halb having DT with 100% p.pierce and what is more is running on ulti mode, the difference of dmg i notice was like 5-10% only? my 2h was using meteor breaker btw, and that is why i am wondering why, since halb should gain more advantage, so that is why i question if there is such thing as critical dmg reduction or not?
    or maybe this is because some multipliers works best when you have more pierce or depends on what skill on u using?
    BTW not just on finstern only, i notice most new bosses also facing this kind of thing.

    sorry for the trouble xD


    hmmmm i see, yeah maybe just because of proration since i can't really test fully doing different prorate 1st before applying a dps skill, might try this, ty


    this seems nice, sadly can't be translated since it is a picture xD
     
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    2H stat is 1 STR=ATK+3, 1 DEX=ATK+1
    HB stat is 1 STR=ATK+2.5, 1 AGI=ATK+1.5

    when come to STR+300 and DEX/AGi+257
    2H have BaseATK = 1147
    HB have BaseATK = 1120

    meteor have 600 skill constant, DT don’t have. Although DT skill multiplier is 7.5 and Meteor only have 6.0, but if the mob have only less defend, the 600 constant will overcome DT PP effect.

    2H have skill Sword Technique which increase Blade skill damage +20%, Further increase Meteor Damage.


    You can try on goldenia, according to the web I share, it’s have 1100 Def, you may seem more different in this boss.
     
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    with the recent buff to blade skills 2h now has a higher multiplier on the first hit of meteor that scales with str so it may be on the same level as DT or even greater
     

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