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Sonica's Detailed Mage Guide (Possibly Too Detailed.)

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by Sonica, Jul 30, 2015.

  1. Aya Frea

    Aya Frea Queen of Nirvana Elite Member

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    About this I have an explanation, I think 1000 speed mean 1 s. I have a programming background. In programming there is one thing called Time interval, if we set it as 1000, it will mean 1 s. So I think in this game 1000 cpsd or apsd mean 1 s speed.
     
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    You're correct, a lot of games use milliseconds in the's type of things. 1k aspd/cspd is 1 second. ppl say it maxes at 1k or 1.2k because they don't see the difference. to tell the max spd needed you check time between attacks. let's say a mage has 3 second cast time for arrows. 3000 cspd will make it instantaneous.
    wanna test it out? equip a magic device, cast magic wall but check the cast time (I think it's between 0.9-1.1 seconds without any cspd boosts?) then equip bd sword which gives +500 cspd if it's a boss dropped version. the seconds will be half a second quicker (.50 cast time). correct me if I'm wrong guys
     
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    Whoa this is extremely interesting Calous-kun and Mizzy-chan
    Have been yearning for relation between ASPD and my Attack Delay
    I think this must be right.
     
  4. Aya Frea

    Aya Frea Queen of Nirvana Elite Member

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    Exactly like that. That why when you add 100 cpsd it will only mean reduce 100/1000 s. It wont mean anything for a lot of players.
    But actually it will mean a lot for Mage when cast Magic Wall on a boss. Let's say both mage and boss cast a spell. You know that mage can't be hit when they are on process casting a spell. Let's say magic wall need 3.333 second to cast and the boss need 3.323 second to cast. If that case happen, your magic wall is cancelled and you are the one that take damage not the boss. But if you add just 20 cpsd, your magic wall need 3.333 - 20/1000 = 3.313 s to cast. So the boss will get knock out, you make damage but no damage is taken. But that only happen if you start cast as well as the boss start cast too.
    Sorry for any misspelling, English is not my language.
     
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    a lot of people doubt the small difference in cspd. aspd a small difference isn't a big deal but cspd any difference helps. especially for magic wall cause that few milliseconds can be the difference between you getting flinched by a group of skeles or saving 200mp.

    ***Off-topic Tip***
    also when farming normal monsters I suggest to always use irogeon. I'm sure most people know this but for those who dont.. Magic device have larger AOE range than Staffs which makes them better for farming, but when it comes to which device Irogeon wins. Irogeon dms mobs immediately when you finish cast where all other staffs/device starts damaging 1+ second later than irogeon. this can help knock back mobs from your party and overall much more helpful
     
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  6. h0tcak3s

    h0tcak3s i want a pet beluga

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    bruh, i really miss you T.T

    il stay on topic and give this thread a like and say "gg"
     
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    Wow thx for guide, really helped when I started I had no idea what I was doing till I read this! :)
     
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    So no one notices about casting time reduction on maxed magic mastery? and just put none?
     
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    h0tcak3s i want a pet beluga

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    i dont recall anything about it reducing casting time, but i do know it increases damage.
     
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    Aya Frea Queen of Nirvana Elite Member

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    I just realize it reduce about 2 second on mp charge. Quite convenience to me. So for me magic mastery is a must.
     
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    I tested this out and didn't see any difference between the cast time on mp charge!

    Mp charge times (with out magic mastery)
    Staff = 4 seconds
    Magic device = 5 sseconds

    Mp charge times (with magic mastery max)
    Staff = 4 seconds
    Magic device = 5 seconds
     
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    er.....magic mastery =add matk. nuffsaid :p
    use combo for fast cast :D (graphically) i think :D
    and about holyfist = sroar fastkill ;)
     
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    Aya Frea Queen of Nirvana Elite Member

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    my mp charge is 2.8 second. why urs is 5 s?
     
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    Sorry I edited the post to reflect the current times! I got the times from when I press the button mp charge to when it finishes the spell!
    Not what's shown on the screen! Because time pases before it shows the count down timer, and when it does show mine also showed 2.8 secs with a staff and something like 3.5 secs with a magic device! With or without magic mastery.
     
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    Aya Frea Queen of Nirvana Elite Member

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    Guess I was wrong, I have retried, and you are right. Maybe when I try both them, I have accidentally change something. Thx that you point that out.
     
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    To be honest when I saw ur post I was like yes!!!! Faster mp charge lol T.T I was sad when it didn't!
     
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    Aya Frea Queen of Nirvana Elite Member

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    XD. Sorry for being FHG (False Hope Giver). I'm just wondering what will be the next level skill once we hit lvl cap 70. It's must be on this month.
     

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