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Discussion in 'Brawler' started by Zephyr666, Aug 8, 2017.

  1. BlackRex

    BlackRex A Black Bunneh Elite Member

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    Lol its a thread to discuss about brawlers.
    If anyone want to talk about how aspd affect your DW dps, they can go to DW thread. I wont give comment here even tho the benefit that shown is too small by sacrificing crit and atk for aspd.

    Its diff with how brawler deal with aspd
    My view :
    Aspd is not bad for braw yet not that important.
    Let say with 1. 3k aspd u managed to deal 10 hit consecutively

    With 4k aspd, u can deal 11 hit consecutively with same amount of time.
    (10% damage increase)- rough assumption-

    U reach 4k by sacrificing lots of gud stat that might gives you more than 20%damage boost. And crit as well to overcome your missing hits.

    So my conclusion is back to my aspd statement up there. Focusing in aspd wont give benefit much when it passed 1.3k. It gives diminishing return afterward.

    NB i cant multiple quote from multipages :(
     
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  2. Komibii

    Komibii [TITLE] Elite Member

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    That' what's best about the brawler. Because you have a bunch of unique skills, you can make a combo based on what you're fighting, or just go comboless.
     
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    Buttkicker Well-Known Member

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    Who knows? Once the level cap hits 150+ ,brawlers should have the capabilities to balance speed and power. Perhaps a "daywalker" build.
     
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    Buttkicker Well-Known Member

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    Zephyr. Sorry to go off topic. Just wanted to ask if you refined the Zaif yourself or went through NPC BS?
     
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    Zephyr666 Well-Known Member

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    But think about how good of a dmg multiplier aspd will be once the devs give brawlers dps capabilities. Either way, damage isnt always everything.
     
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    Zephyr666 Well-Known Member

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    Explain
     
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    Zephyr666 Well-Known Member

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    Yep, I made a refiner about lvl 80 and got it up to A+
     
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    Buttkicker Well-Known Member

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    Daywalker = all the pros and no drawbacks/weaknesses.

    High attack damage and high aspd. Like a combination of your build and BlackRex's.
     
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    Zephyr666 Well-Known Member

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    Yep thats the future build.
     
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    RyeUshio The Blue Bull Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    I tried how you do it, tho I can't really give up on revs. You haven't change speedfreak.

    Every one of us are made unique by our build, but still we're united by the fist.

    Looking forward to Deathblow. ^_^

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  11. BlackRex

    BlackRex A Black Bunneh Elite Member

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    When the times come when aspd affect damage multiplier, i will adjust my view to aspd. As for now, my view will still the same.
    Yea ik. Dps is not everything, yet faster kill is the one everyone look for. So every build is built in dps perspective then survivability and usefulness.

    I dont say your build is bad. Its just too much in one thing will leave a drawback on the other side.
     
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    RyeUshio The Blue Bull Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    So basically speedfreak is crossing fingers that tier4 martial would shed a light for us.

    I'd say being able to adapt is a good thing. It has always been in our nature to have low damage output and yet we push em back to show we can to dps.

    I agree in general that one's build should be balanced. ^_^
     
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    Lol sorry bro was trying to defend your high aspd ideal
     
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    Buttkicker Well-Known Member

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    THIS!!!!!


    P.S. also looking forward to Deathblow. ^^
     
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    Zephyr666 Well-Known Member

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    Ayy, haven't heard from you in a while. Im pretty confident in saying that Lvl 4 skills will be the tipping point for unlocking full potential in brawlers.
    After all..
    This is what Iruna did. They made it so that Monks built up the piwer and foundation they needed to be OP, then after level 180 (?) They started giving them the Skills to do DPS. And hey, the damage they dealt could put Halberds to shame.
    Torams level 150 is Irunas level 180.
    So all i gotta say to all brawlers is, hang in there, yeah?
     
  16. Azin.

    Azin. Brawler Enthusiast Elite Member

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    actually my brawler build atm has balanced speed and dmg ;)
    3k aspd yet can still do 50-60k kicks and do solo bosses
     
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    Zephyr666 Well-Known Member

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    Not everyone likes to use fixed statted player made gear.
     
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    Azin. Brawler Enthusiast Elite Member

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    well why would i use drop /npc made (except aniv knux 5 that thing is dope) if i can use a better one?
     
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    Zephyr666 Well-Known Member

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    Because, as I have mentioned before, Lvl 4 skills will be what gives brawlers power. That power, along with brawler appropriated stats such as Atk% MP AMPR ASPD and others, are the best combinations of stats. Ccc gears are just an effort in turning triple kick in to a damaging skill. My point is, why use such rigid, fixed gears for skills that will be outdated soon? The devs purposely give us these stats because they know theyll work well with lvl 4 skills. So to answer your question, it may be better for YOU, considering you're optimizing your build for Triple kick or heavy smash, but dropped and bs crafted gears are better for ME becausing im optimizing my build for the future.
     
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    Azin. Brawler Enthusiast Elite Member

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    lol y got butt hurt lmao we have different build and perspective.. i dont like overkilling aspd like u did.. im into balanced one.. why would i use a earth elem fixed knux against earth elem mobs??.. or use earth elem mobs against fire elem mobs/boss.. i optimize my crt so i dont need to invest much on crt stats lmao..
     

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