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survival of the archer species, need help

Discussion in 'Hunter' started by Toramwasmyidea, Oct 23, 2015.

  1. Toramwasmyidea

    Toramwasmyidea im probably high right now Elite Member

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    hey guys so my archer is lvl 50 now, and does okay in most situations- but not performing to my satisfaction really. especially around health and staying alive if things Dont go as planned in battles.

    mages at least can heal, and brawlers and sword users usually have good health def- I on the other hand seem to have non of that lol. my Archer has bad mp recovery, only 700 odd HP and 98 def.
    so if bosses or stronger mobs come for me I'm a goner if I don't circle run lol. is their any advice some experts in this class can give me please? it will be much appreciated!
    on tired of spamming pot lol.

    my stats are:
    Dex : 120 something
    Vit: 11
    agi: 10

    I use a war bowgun,
    fw garb(most of the time)
    Dex 2 talisman
    few cape.

    thanx in advance!
     
  2. marchie03

    marchie03 Well-Known Member

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    I am not an expert but I know archer is 2nd to the strongest class in Toram.
    pump on survival skills. 15 points is all you need. (5 safe rest + 10 HP boost)
    Mana recovery is also easy as long as you keep your attack speed to near 500. (use FW armor + Ftails / magic scarf)
    The new bow I believe has mana recov - take advantage of it :)
     
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  3. Toramwasmyidea

    Toramwasmyidea im probably high right now Elite Member

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    yeah I got the magic bow today thanx, and slotted lol.
    believe it or not but in all the hundreds of battles iv faced bosses so far- not one has dropped a xtail or armor that I want:(. an I've done everything break, surport, tank, atk.
    so I really need help with xtails.

    if it helps this is how my skill tree looks so far
    power shot lv10
    bulles eye lvl5
    moeba shot lvl10
    para shot lvl 1
    arrow show lvl 1
    bow mastery lvl 10
    long rang mast lvl 1

    battle skills-
    attack up lvl 10
    def up lvl 10
    smash lvl 5

    magic tree-
    mp charge lvl 1

    survival-
    mp rest lvl 5
    mp boost lvl 4
    sober analysis lvl 1

    so yeah as u can sew I rely a lot on power shot and moeba. BT I find my attacks constantly guarded, evaded or not doing high damage enough. an taking to long recover mp.
    I fl like I screwed up with my skills lol
     
  4. marchie03

    marchie03 Well-Known Member

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    You're skill tree is interesting. Let me guess, those that has level 1 skill point - you're just trying them aren't you? :)

    Points I've learned with my archer:
    - GO PURE DEX. You can put crit later on when you already maxed DEX.
    - Powershot - good for Bowman ONLY. The use of this skill is only to tumble the enemy due to slow casting. You can leave it at level 5 if you want to be a gunner.
    -Moebashot - best skill so far. can be used as opening attack - or you can just spam the skill. I set this to level 10.
    - Bullesye and Parashot - you can leave it to level 5 if you're just planning to set these as combo using consecutive. Save extra points for the new skills.
    - Arrow Rain - set to level 5 just to open the next future skills or set to 10 if you're a mat farmer / power leveler :)
    - Charge - level 1 (I set this to level 10 since I farm for mats) Charge level 10 + Arrow Rain level 10 + Bow/xBow + M.device as sub = fast AOE :)

    Bow mastery and Long range mastery? They're trash as of the moment. :p
    Attack Up level 5 - to open the next skills. Invest more points on Smash and Crit skill from battle skill tree.
    MP Boost, Mp rest Sober Analysis - Not that useful for me yet. You can get 8 MP bars even without this skill.
    (Magic scarf (s), Dex talisman II (s), Armor (s), Weapon (s) - just use 100MP xtal on all (slotted) items.
    Attack MP recov from Ooze armor +4, Magic scarf +3, New bow +2. Total MP Recov is +9

    Any skill that says "chance to inflict..." with high mana consumption ,for me, is a NO no:) - level 5 only
    Any skill that is not instant cast is a NO no. - level 5 only
    Farming skill, Opening skill, and any skill that you plan to use in a combo with smite effect should be level 10 :) - you don't need to max all the skill for now.

    Anyway, what I have stated above were just according to my archer experience. :)
     
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  6. Alleura

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    lvl50 archer without arrow rain,
    You must be had hard time to level your char.
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    I thinks it's time to you to create new archer from 0.
    Then, Try to figure out, what next skill you should learn and fit your style.

    You already mess up 20 stat points to AGI and VIT, which is really waste.
    With 20points you can have good p.attack growth with DEX.
    Or you can mix-up with additional CRT if you like.

    And I don't think that archer should waste 10SP on DEF-UP.
    Even my tank did not take those skill :p

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    My recommendation,
    Stat: full dex
    Prio skill (for quick lvl-up):
    Shoot skill: lvl5 P.shoot > lvl5 Bullseye > lvl10 Arrow Rain,
    Magic skill: lvl10 Mana Charge.

    P.level archer tips:
    Equip Bowgun (main) + Magic Device (sub)
    Combo: Arrow Rain > MP Charge
    Go on skeleton or rutiro.
    *M.Device as sub is to reduce the MP charge casting time while you farm little mobs.

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    Survival tips:
    I have 2 option here,
    1. Survival skill tree, HP Boost cost (15SP) = +1000 max HP
    2. Sneak Attack and Bless (20SP)
    > Sneak Attack, hide your self and turn aggro away, then you will be the last party member to be killed (*use this skill before spamming your combo) (**not available when solo)
    > Bless lvl10, pure dex should heal about 65hp per thick. Don't take this skill if you got HP boost, because it'll not efficient. (good for tenacity combo effect, cast skill with your HP, and then Heal your HP)

    **If you not take the 1st choice, you can always inc your max HP by +1000hp using pot: Vita Plus II.
    **Total 1500hp+ Is enough to survive from "Arcoiris" normal attack.
    Increasing your def is not necessary, you just waste your point.
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    DPS thingy
    I also have 2 option here:
    1. Boost your max MP till certain point, MP = DPS (MakOi style) : Cheap equip, Very good for short battle/ Fast farming.
    **Boost your most DPS skill with Smite combo to maximum damage.
    here makOi style: http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/gunner-hybrid-build-guide-by-makoi-update-9-25-2015.1797/

    2. Boost ASPD (1100aspd), by equipment bonus + mega speed potion : Expensive stuff, But good for long battle (for ex Arcoiris raid)
    **Use consecutive or tenacity combo, to manipulate MP consumption. 100mp for crazy combo (4+ active skill)
    I believed you will need "sneak attack" for this style, because if you not have good tank in party, I'm sure you will be the 1st targeted by boss.
    If you just running around without attack, you just ruin your DPS.
     

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