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T-t-tank(cap 200 Tank build/guide)

Discussion in '1-Hand' started by Yunan, Apr 3, 2019.

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  1. Yunan

    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    I'm also considering that setup, but In the end I still prefer empress mail over that dragoon mail setup for the ampr and maxmp. The dragoon mail with CoO and harmony shield, would give a lot of hp with a good amount of resistance. But yea, the aggro would be on the lower side without thunder axe.
     
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    If only we get a good arm with high enough ailment resist and phy&mag resist too (tho maybe i am.getting too greedy haha)
    So yea in my build i am most worried abt the armor part otherwise its good for me
     
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    I just got back to game with no spina no gears so I don't really have any past event gears and very tight on spina( people said good tank is cheap to build).
    So if I'm not switching between swords should I even be skipping toy hammer?(like go dragmail&helm for ail resis).... Or lil emp garb with ail resis from draghelm and festival sword better?
    I do like the concept of using 2 xtal on sword but how long would it take for me to get enough for the prime piercer? And how imp is getting that second xtal?
    Should I get megiston before getting hero potum? Or use nightmare potum to cut cost initially?
    Need to buy dancer book too
    I only have 2m rn

    Is the lil emp garb drop rare?(like can I farm enough to get one slotted? Or would have to get piercer like the dragoon gears?)

    Is impact really very good? I already picked meteor breaker as aggro skill but now I'm getting berserk too and I might not have enough sp to get impact javelin
    I got book of Oblivion and a bunch of notebooks of Oblivion if I need to change something.

    If I'm using lil emp garb what alternatives are good against water boss? Don't have finpin.

    I just wanna start with something thats usable now but can easily be upgraded later without having to remake char or build. I put up all my doubts now, final equip suggestions pls

    Thanks again
     
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    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    One other way is to keep gambling for ail resist stat from avatar so you don't have to use ail resist gear at all.
     
  5. Kuu

    Kuu Well-Known Member

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    Sad I don't have thunder axe,
    Now I'm worried of too low hp and aggro if I take off draghelm (like yuan said) soo much confusion
     
  6. Rizer phoenix

    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    Tanking is a cheap job xD
    All those skill books, equips, and slots are what we include ourselves to make the tank better and increase chances of survival~

    While ailment resist is good, as it prevents ailments that can potentionally kill (get stunned,tumbler, etc n bam! KO)

    The other things such as phy/mag resis are ‘incase’ ; so we have many layers of defense, n prevent us dying @.@; )

    Essentially?
    What does qualifies a tank?
    Decent/big/huge (20k+) hp?
    Interruption skills?
    Knowledge of pattern?
    Holding aggro?
    (Literally tanked Venena Nm with my 2h (10k hp) with buster to heal, n impact>meteor to hold aggro xD stay in mid)
    If too much?
    Focus on interruption, aggro holding, and keeping team alive~
    Rest? Take em gradually as u lvl up and get more spina :3

    Suggestion :
    Half of those prob can be solved with food buff x3
    Mag/phy resis food buff~
    Hp, mp food buff~
    Aggro+ food buff~
    Lvl 7-8 should be nuff :3
    Essential Skills?
    Guardian, Santuary, Pdef, Shield skills (mainly to stun), sword skills, hp n mp survival skills, lvl 7 impact, 1 finale, decoy, [berserk IF ur aspd is slower than 1k otherwise? I think its fine .-.) ]
    I think thats it?


    Dancer skills?
    They are mostly used as opening/buff/ mid combo :3 so not a priority ( elegant poise can be substituted by Pdef/ or simply dodge xD)
    Spirit dance? ....Your team mates can recover mp on their own -w-) worry for urself, nature’s wonder? ..Pdef heals 2k at 20k hp..good nuff..)

    Tanker doesnt necessarily have to take on ALL dmg xD its fine to dodge (rather? Plz dodge, better than dying) just hold aggro n interrupt timely~ n that! Is you good tanking :3
     
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    Kuu Well-Known Member

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    Wow cool
     
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    I'm suggesting my setup with sakura fan hair clip with lil empress garb, you can use a lesser version from npc as it takes some luck to get it as drop item(need parts break) and it drop less often than weapons. The npc blacksmith version have a stat of 20%phys/magic resist, 400mp, 8 ampr, - 10% aggro and only - 30% water resist so you don't really have to switch armors even for water bosses, put an iron empress xtal.
    Guidance lantern with seele zauga and yashiro mom for the sakura hair clip. For the sword, you can use that dark general sword for the aggro, and then use harmony shield. You can reach a healthy 55% aggro with 43% magic resist and 53% physical resist. With lvl 8 crit buff and your crit from avatars. you don't need the 2 slot for megiston and switch the nightmare potum with hero potum.

    Impact isn't that important to get, for tumble you can save your sp by getting sonic wave instead(saves you about 7 sp)
     
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    Thanks I'll do that.
    Soon be leveling 2 chars at venena .....so if I get an arm there somehow, (just in case) what spare arm to keep?
     
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    You can use jeremiah mail(10%mag/phys resist, 5% ail resist) for water bosses. You would ald have 100 crit even without megiston, but if you want to get your sword 2 slotted. You can get megiston xtal, and switch the yashiro mom with dusk machina. Then if you have the money to buy a two slotted sakura fan hairclip get both dusk machina and yashiro mom. Then again its just for more optimization. But fundamentally, 1 slot gears has the best cost to performace ratio. Getting two slots is more for tank enthusiasts with enough budget.
     
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    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    Yunan’s set up is great at Venena *^*)
    But Considering all u said?
    Simple setup?
    Weapon : Toy hammer (100 crit)
    Sub : shield ..4th anniv works good..that 27%aggro..is good
    Arm : just use heaven’s feather arm, gives 4k hp, 300 mp,
    Add : dragoon helm (aggro 30%, ailment 10% n 2k hp)
    Ring? If u can risk 10% ailment? Machina (venena+tapir) if no? Just go along with that ring with 400mp ..whatever %aggro..1s..(sorry forgot name :’ )
    For aggro? Get lvl 7-8 aggro+ food friend, that gives 72% aggro..with shield n add? Thats easy aggro (n use skills to generate aggro)
    Hp? Comes with lvl~
    Ailment 100%? ..gamble stats .-.)..atleast u can get 10-15% from ava stats..prefer that over sacrificing equips .-.)
    Aspd? Use giga potion or get Quick aura..(recover lost hp via pdef first hit)
    ..thats good nuff..no?
     
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    Cool......now
    For skills and combo,
    I maxed shield cannon but what skill can be good opener against sensitive bosses?
    Still get lvl 4 tumble shoot thingy skill if I have cannon?
    Astute and trig slash as mid combo starter?astute gives some cr buff too right?
    End combo with pdef or trig slash?
    HH max? And trig slash at lvl 5 or 6?
    War cry lvl 5 enough? Or better max?
     
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    Yeah thanks, I do have a machina ring with deniala and venena
     
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    The main difference is the resistance stat. Aggro food is good and all but it lacks the flexibility to be useful for both dps and tank chars. Most casual tanks use toy hammer setup with jeremiah/dragoon mail paired with dragoon helm. While the ail resist, maxhp and crit is good it lacks magic/physical resist. Im suggesting the lil empress garb setup with harmony shield for a more complete setup that's relatively easy to get and is expandable when you have enough spina. The no toyhammer being the biggest difference as you would need to deal with crit elsewhere. And no don't use machina ring, ever. Its better to use a one slotted ring rather than machina ring as ailment resist is far more valuable than the extra slot it provides.
    I use trigslash at level 1 since I'm not getting meteor break, but lvl 5 is good enough if you do get the meteor. Hard hit should be maxed out for 100% flinch rate.
    For combo opener you can use astute, or ad-lib(need minstrel book, priced 500k spina). You can use trigslash at the end of your combo to boost your ampr. I personally only use it to speed up guardian with the 50%motion speed buff for following skill. If you do use it at the end of your combo, getting it at lvl 10 would also be good. The sonic wave for tumble is good to have even with 50% tumble rate at lvl 10 for non knuckle. You need all 3 interrupts so you can cancel out aoe patterns with 3 different options, all 3 interrupts have their cooldown on bosses so its best to have multiple options to cancel dangerous patters. Warcy level 5 is good enough.
     
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    Well for combo starters i use rage sword , trigger slash, astute , ad lib (minstrel skills) for non interrupt bosses
    As for interruptable bosses u can use shield bash or canon , sonic wave , hard hit etc
    I use astute amd trigger as opener as astute gives 25 CR for 5sec at lv 5 and 10sec at lv 10 which is low ans waste of skills points according to me and abt trigger slash make it lv6 atleast to reduce MP cost to 200MP and it gives 12 ampr at lv 6 and 20 at lv 10
    Abt warcry its lv5 enough cuz u just need its buff and berserk lv10
     
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    Indeed x3
    I was just providing what l knew as l understood @.@; )
    (Even l prioritize Phy/Mag resist after seeing its advantanges)
    N of course, since l have nuff aggro (n dont lose aggro unless dc), l suggested food, since it seemed kinda hard to balance all the stats for OP~
    Even l am still learning about tanking x3
    N admit your knowledge as tank is far better~
     
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    Well yea i tried a lot and for now i have a total of +14% ailment resist from ava
    Striving to make it 25% XD
     
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    So tumble at 10 and that def breaker at 10 gotcha
     
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    How are guard skills? Worth getting or skip?
    20% guard rate and 5% guard power for 20 sp right?
     
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    I would say get them after u have made ur tank build satisfactory to ur choice cuz they r not that important (in my view)
    I don't use them XD
     

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