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Tenryu proration?

Discussion in 'Katana' started by Dragir, Apr 3, 2019.

  1. Dragir

    Dragir Member

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    ----EDIT----
    Pretty sure I'm wrong about everything written bellow. Somehow was certain that I heard that Tenryu had a separate proration from physical attacks and couldn't understand why I couldn't enhance it while using phy atk skills...
    Thank you all for your replies, it helps a lot!
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    Hey there, I'm really trying to understand Tenryu proration system, and I need your help if you know anything about it. So far, I came to this conclusion:

    Tenryu has a separate proration from other physical attack skills, but it does not reset their own proration.
    While Tenryu buff is on, Physical attack skills (at least mononofu's) do not reset Tenryu proration.
    Tenryu can be enhanced when other party members use physical attack skills (proration works), unless they have a special proration state such as Tenryu.
    Idk if Madagachi Zanou/Zantei Settetsu Zanou use Tenryu proration, but that wouldn't surprise me.

    What do you think about it? Don't hesitate to correct me, I'm bad at finding out stuff..
     
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  2. Zenicky

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    1 tenryu = 1physical atk
     
  3. Dragir

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    Oh. That would explain a lot of things. But can't physical attacks of other pt members prorate tenryu? I thought so :/
     
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    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    Prorate as in, weaken the tenryu?
     
  5. Dragir

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    I thought that, on the contrary, it would strengthen it! But I might be wrong of course. Need to test it :/
     
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    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    Uhh, you still lost me there. So you're saying that physical skills of other party member increase tenryu's damage? You do aware that there is also normal attack proration right?
     
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    Here's a short summary I made explaining how proration works


    Proration - Enemy Conditioning
    There are three types of Attacks
    - Auto
    - Physical
    - Magic
    Auto are attacks your characters initiate when you tap the attack button. They deal auto proration.
    Physical are Skills that deal physical damage, and thus physical proration.
    Magic are Skills that deal magic damage, and thus magic proration.

    When you use Auto multiple times, the enemy is conditioned to become resistant to auto attacks while becoming less resistant to Magic and Physical attacks. Same effect applies to both Physical and Magic. The most basic form of proration is 3 - 5 autos followed by a magic/phys skill.


    Proration is also shared among party members.
    A party with 3 mages will prorate magic more often, therefore giving Tenryu, a physical skill, more opportunities to deal more damage. Same effect if the other three members only deal auto, and let the Tenryu deal damage.

    This is why when playing as a tank, or any class, you have to watch not only the bosses's movements, but your member's attacks too. Sometimes, dealing the highest damage isn't always good, and you gotta prorate for your friends.
     
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  8. Dragir

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    That's what I had understood...
    Yes I am aware of the auto proration, but I thought that some skills have a special proration (dmg up when using skill over and over), and I somehow was sure that tenryu proration could be reset with other physical attacks... Might have been mislead by what I heard about it back then!
    But if that is, as it seems to be, incorrect, then it explains why I couldn't understand how tenryu works haha
     
  9. Prisma-C

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    Tenryu has an active buff that activates upon use.

    Using it ones adds the "Ransei" buff which automatically removes all cooldown from auto attacks.
    The default countdown is 7 seconds if I remember correctly. Upon using Magadachi and successfully hitting the opponent, the ransei buff is lengthened to 30 seconds.
    During these 30 seconds, you can spam Tenryu. Each stack increases the motion speed of Tenryu and its damage.

    However, while there is indeed a damage increase per stack, it would be better to auto prorate in-between each Tenryu.

    Tenryu > Tenryu > Tenryu > Tenryu Vs Tenryu > Auto > Tenryu > Auto > Tenryu > Auto > Tenryu.

    While slower, the damage difference due to proration makes up for it. Bad proration can lessen your damage by more than 100 - 200k. Also, someone correct me if i'm wrong, using Magadachi with 4 Ransei Buffs stacked results in very high single hit damage from it.
     
  10. Dragir

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    Thanks for the advices, I'll make great use of them!! >:3
     

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