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Terrible Venena Rant Thread

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Isra, Dec 28, 2019.

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Is Venena a good boss

  1. Yes

    17.9%
  2. No

    3.6%
  3. The parties suck but yes

    46.4%
  4. Toram sucks

    14.3%
  5. My PP smol

    17.9%
  1. S@Ble

    S@Ble Well-Known Member

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    Opp , Amay babe. I feel yiur pain tanking Vene yesterday. I have to left coz I feel so depress not getting tank rank when I tank. Hahah. I spam aggro combo like crazy and some mage & 2h still get higher aggro than me (heck did they eat aggro buff? coz my tak aggro is very high already)

    And yesterday, some one also keep interup boss and i freaking get all resis and i cant interup when needed. Hateeeee thatttttt.

    So I loged out and felt so unwanted.
     
  2. Kaejuda

    Kaejuda Well-Known Member

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    Venena : *Exist*

    Every noob and stinky leechers in a 5000m radius :
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  3. Undead

    Undead Well-Known Member

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    Hmm...
    1. two tanks is not bad, other tank might get dc or lowbat or time to leave party, having an extra is nice, even without tank, the agro holder must stay in the middle.
    2. I love to be the one dealing high damage to the pillars and venena, others can watch or kiss venena.
    3. People loves staying at the middle Kissinger venena than spreading out, but honestly, being close to venena will keep you safe from the omega beam cannon laser, the floating deadly orbs can be destroyed by impact instantly, but if your defense and hp is a bit low, the double swipe might kill you, there is no black lightning as well.
    4. If I have a horrible story to tell, it is when you are on nightmare or ultimate mode then someone breaks venena before she have 0 extra hp bar left. It is going to be problematic even for an 8 man party with +100% Atk and Critical damage without magical or physical pierce.
    :eek::(
     
  4. Isra

    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

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    So you have one useless tank. Very nice
    Thats problematic because she starts bombing the field. Also you clearly only care about attacker rank, just like all the other players we have previously stated to have issues with
    True, thats why the tank stays there and DPS learn where to stand that aren't right next to the tank where Spikes, Fireballs and Dark Balls can hit them and disrupt their tanking


    Idk if you're trying to be funny or contrarian or if you don't know, but it's not cute, cool nor edgy. You look like an idiot who's never attempted to tank at Venena nor know the troubles we have dealing with her. Please stop your inane nonsense
     
  5. Undead

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    Don't worry, you'll get what im trying to say in time, we all experience the same thing at first
     
  6. Isra

    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

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  7. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    There are times where i just stand in front of players watching them dps venena whilst her shoeld is up and the towers have like 1 guy on em ay near max hp.

    This can be easily fixed by the devs if they made attack rank based on total damage done in battle rather than only to boss.
     
  8. Zufeng

    Zufeng Well-Known Member

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    I swear to god, i will avoid standing close to any Dw and 2hs user
    They generate large aggro in short time, yet they think its a funny idea to stole the aggro from tank
    40% its close call with death, 30% got my ass fried by laser, and 30% got pillar aoe shoved in my ass

    I don't give any rat-ass about your gear or "Op" damage, i just want to clear the battle without wasting too many time.
    If you stole tank aggro and ruined proration, go burn in hell
     
  9. Yunan

    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    I always play with a playstyle that require limited help from others/not affected by others' performance.

    How to play a tank? Get all the skills needed to be immovable, undying tank. Sanctuary, shit tons of resistance, aoe skills and adequte aggro and skill combos so whatever the other players do, it doesn't affect me one bit. I also do whatever I could to support them, so if they die, it ain't my fault. But if I die, its my own mistake.

    Playing as a dps? I'll just do the best moves given the situation, if the tank is reliable in aggro management, I'll use gsw, otherwise I won't, its that simple. I always go to the pillars that has less players, breaking parts (for lower difficulty mode), and gives the best effort.

    The point is to do optimization of your own work. I don't bother forcing people to do certain ways to ease my own job. Giving advice is enough for me. Unless its to the extent of extreme liability, I won't hold others responsible.
     
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  10. mekp

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    Having two tank at venana is quite challenging. Few days ago, i was leveling my vit bs until 200 and also encountered same issues. At certain point, there's also a tank player with high ego too. Its hard to dealt with that kind of player. Example, the party lead allied with another party, i was hoping its all dps (4 dps) since we already have tanker. When we were in, there's a meteor spammer ohs +shield from pillars until venena. Non stop type meteor spamming. When i saw that situation, i just reduce spamming war cry and just let him tank but i did wrote on party chat " lol, we have two tank" and that particular player denied it and continue spamming meteor. So, i went to pillars to prorate since the ally party were all phys proration (no mage). Since our ally already have tank i decided to leave party after that round. After i leave, i created a new party and shouting for ally and that particular tanker asked me to ally him (best guess, they kicked him). Sighs.
    Another situation involved, aggro+ food buff, most of player have tank char now but since once we eat food buff, it will last for 12 hours. That will be a problem for tanker who wants to level their dps character, sometimes, its hard to babysit their aggro output :mad:
     
  11. Quit toram

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    I can't actually remember much of my bad experience at Venena.

    The most common is the obvious Tec BS parties every time level cap is raised. Another common case is that the "DPS" guys kept dying for no reason.
    I saw this happened too but occasionally. And about the attacker rank, I think it already is like that. Try going to Guignol, but you only kill the Singing Eye at the back, and let your party kill Guignol. I ended up taking more than 90% of the attacker rank lmao
     
  12. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    Nope cuz if it was, youd see an attacker rating at venena if you only attack pillar at venena. Guignol is probably a specific instance
     
  13. Undead

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    I agree, just imagine you are a soldier with no choice who will be with you and in worst situation, if you
    blame and point fingers, then your whole squad will die.
    Expect that most inexperienced players will spam or doesnt know what to do, also it help to keep guardian up and have a buff combo with guardian so you can counter other players spamming and steal some of the agro they generate, you can also challenge yourself to beat the agro they make.
    He claimed that he is not a tank, maybe he is a 1 hand shield dex dps or a vit smith with limited tank skills, spamming meteor is a bad move in many ways if he is indeed a tank, I usually observe the skill they cast, I usually cap my tank last, as I only used it when the party needs it.
    That is true.
    venena pillar hp is smaller compared to venena, while the singing eye got maybe 100 times more hp with low defense than guignol with hp that can be seen during party ready.
     
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  14. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    Y'know what? This calls for a test. But like i said, i highly doubt non-boss damage counts
     
  15. Helixx

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    I can say this true. on normal/hard I only spam skill on pillar and just normal attack on venena but I still get attacker rank anyway.
     

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