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The crying Passiver knuck+degger build ( ask for opinion)

Discussion in 'Secondary Trees' started by Ru°, May 8, 2018.

  1. Ru°

    Ru° Well-Known Member

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    thanks for read this thread
    i make the passiver Knuck+ degger
    on lvl 70 now
    i take all martial art passive
    and dagger passive hiden arm to armor break passive about 30 point
    and some guard skill and battle skill to. to improve attack dodge crit and eva rate ( still need more point)

    i dont have any combo cuz this passiver build and all pasive skill make may ampr fast :p just hit like gatlinggun

    my main skill now heavy smas lvl 5 just use it when armor break from passive work. deal about 20k damge and some bonus damge .

    what i want to asking about dagger passive tier 4 amazing trow ( is that skill active to passive degger skill to or just work on active degger skill? )

    i wondering about that if that active on hidde arm to so my passiver build hit count will go up. :) damge knuck maybe look so low but hit count and aspd cover it.
    o_O
    equip now kukiri dagger give add atck 50% that give more damge

    i still dont know it work or not cuz still need lot skill point to get all passiver on battle skill and more.
    stat now 125 agi 50 dex 25 crit ( try to max agi and balnce dex crit)

    and this low budget build all item not crafted player item . just need find equip drop from bos or moster give eva or dodge option ( give me some suggestion for equip please )
    and please dont ask where my combo cuz i tell u this the passiver build and i m kind leazy to up cp combo. :p

    when hit lvl 150 maybe next mont :( tier 4 martial art i hear about chariot or chakra
    and lvl 120 open more passive on guard and battle skill:rolleyes: ( can someone help me make the skill build)

    i will take all pasaive on martial art and degger :oops: and guard to. but still not know are my skill point can take it all. ( to lvl 150 that mean about 80 more skill point) cuz i still wondering about take skill from:
    katana : dash give crit buff ( to cover knuck eva movement and give more crit)
    dw : skill give more eva or dodge ( for survive)
    helbr : quick aura ( kind fun)
    and if someone know some skill improve more this build :oops:

    sorry my englis gramar so bad
    thanks again and please help me:oops:
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    dw and katana skill still optional
    focus on :
    guard skill
    battle skill
    dagger skill
    martial art

    i will not use it until i know degger skill tier 4 amazing trow work or not.
    no skill point for survival skill :(
     
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  2. BierSong

    BierSong Active Member

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    Amazing throw work for all dagger skill including active and passive skill.
    For increase your armor break from passive and active skill, use equip with guard break stat like zaif sadik (guard break+24%).
    In my opinion : don't weak your self by using reflex (reduce def + mdef, since you will rarely evasion even with evasion rate+100%) and quick aura (add aspd, but sacrifice your hp by 10%).
    Sorry about my opinion.
    I usually use combo for 3rd tier skill :
    smash > warcry (save) > sonic wave (con) > shell break (smite) > impact (con)
    or
    smash > warcry (save) > holy fist (con) > sonic wave (con) > shell break (smite) > impact (con)
    when armor break :
    impact > heavy smash (smite) > warcry (save) > shell break (smite) > smash (con)
    or
    impact > heavy smash (smite) > smash (con) > warcry (save) > shell break (smite) > sonic wave (con)
    I hope it will help you to get some information.
    Correct me if im wrong.:D
     
  3. ingame778

    ingame778 Well-Known Member

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    Armor break is not guard break. Armor break is aliment from shell break, guard break from Zaif zadik is decrease boss guard rate. Thats all.
     
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  4. ingame778

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    On thread, u said something like gatling gun auto attacks. I made something similar with full agi knuck dagger but i lack crit so results are lackluster. Nice punching motions tho.

    Gears using aspd gears reaching 4.7k aspd, using speed buff combo but duration 10secs need recast

    Speed buff combo: Reflex, beserk save, impact cons, rush smite, finale smite.

    Skills i maxed:
    Rush
    Beserk
    impact lv7
    Finale lv1
    Hidden arm
    Intensive knife
    Mail breaker lv1
    Amazing throw NOT ENOUGH SP LOLOLO
    Aggregavate
    Strong chase attack

    At lv9x not enuf sp sososo too bad jajaja. Gotta improve crit rate too.
     
  5. BierSong

    BierSong Active Member

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    Thank's for correcting me about that missunderstanding. :D
    I mean the purpose when use guard break equip is when guard break icon appear, launch combo 2 for heavy smash. :D
     
  6. ingame778

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    Still nope lol. If guard break icon apper it wont increase heavy smash dmg. Guard is not armor.

    Think of shield vs armor. Shield needs to move, called guard. Armor not needed to move, called armor

    Guard break wont show the cracked glass thingy on boss. Armor break WILL show the cracked glass thingy INCREASING heavy smash dmg. Same thing goes for garyou too
     
  7. Asatu

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    Guard break 24% means if boss will guard your attack, there is 24%chance to negate that guard. Its not decreasing guard rate.
    Ailment for decreasing guard rate is dizzy if im not wrong.
     
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  8. BierSong

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    I said that because of this, heavy smash still have an additional damage when guard break and armor break appear. :)
    But, the main problem is not every monster/mini boss/boss have guard rate to activated our guard break from equip (activated when mobs guard our normal attack/passive/active skill). :(
    I hope this one will help us that heavy smash have an additional damage when guard break and armor break comes. :D
    For garyou, need to get some experiment on it. If garyou also active when guard break, it will help us to active garyou bonus damage and make us easier to use garyou even when we didn't use zantei/shell break/snipe for armor break. :D
     
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  9. Asatu

    Asatu Well-Known Member

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    Alright my friend. Heavy smash add dmg need armor break to proc. So, when there is armor break, it will be proc.
    And of course when there is guard break and ARMOR BREAK... Add dmg of heavy smash will still proc...
    When there is ignite and ARMOR BREAK... It will be proc....
    When there is flinch, tumble, stun, dizzy, dazzle, freeze, persecuted, ed, lag, bluescreen, explodomaximusendoftheworld AND ARMOR BREAK.... It will be proc....
     
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  10. BierSong

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    please don't disheart guys. ;)
     

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