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The future of dagger and assassin skills?

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by Trippyyy, Mar 29, 2019.

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Superior assassin main hand?

  1. One hand sword

    24.6%
  2. Halberd

    29.5%
  3. Katana

    6.6%
  4. Staff

    11.5%
  5. Other(knuckle i guess)

    11.5%
  6. Shield+Shield!!!! xD

    3.3%
  7. Assassin Skills suck/useless/not worth it/rubbish

    4.9%
  8. Bow

    8.2%
  1. Trippyyy

    Trippyyy Well-Known Member

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    Halb+dagger is already a popular option. I'm personally favoring 1hs+dagger and then there's katana dagger which has pros but plenty of cons too. Dagger mages could possibly make a comeback but i think theyd be out classed by the first 2 options. I'm personally favoring the 1hs+dagger for the overall versatility i believe would come from it. Katana would be nice in theory because use of shukuichi to get close without losing that backstab bonus and even if you're ok with using it there's triple strike(whatever it's called). Idk, I think all the possibilities that came from adding assassin are amazing and really wanna do a cool build with this. I'd like to hear your opinions and thoughts on this as well. Think of this as a place to debate which main wep will be superior and add your thoughts.

    Edit: My thoughts on 1hs+dag were that this could be the best overall balance in my theory. Ampr+even more possibilities for semi dps tanking and all the combos that could be made here. Feel free to shove my opinions back down my throat though. I'd rather see some superior theory crafting and debates ;3

    Edit 2: Let's not forget about magic swordsman and dark books as well. Probably a terrible idea(it is lel) to mix in with this but hey maybe someone has a stroke of genius or something~

    Edit 3: Also just dawned on me that too many skill points could be wasted on assassin skills making assassin actually useless rubbish for now so ill add that option to the poll >~>
     
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  2. Katzblazer

    Katzblazer Well-Known Member

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    We need the skill data, to see if it scales with STR DEX OR INT, i love backstab but it's more suited for a close ranged Class.
     
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  3. MyLastDreams

    MyLastDreams Well-Known Member

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    Im just happy i can finally make a decent knuckle/dagger now. Also loving how assassin skills arent just more plain damage skills with buffs.
     
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    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    With my mediocre gear on Don Yeti, backstab deals *** while dragon tooth deals 330k

    Edit: Gotta test it again
     
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  5. Trippyyy

    Trippyyy Well-Known Member

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    lemme know x.x I've seen that backstab looks pretty broken so far and i can't test much myself....(got rolled back to Lv100 on main)
     
  6. MyLastDreams

    MyLastDreams Well-Known Member

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    Imo back stab is great only if u manage to hit all the conditions for it. Thats placement, activating backsteps buff -which only triggers from dodging red AoEs before the indicator disappears- and having learned foresight. Thats at least 40 points used to so u can try to burst with it. Its not bad by any means, just have to fully commit to using it or it becomes highly situational. That said Arcane strike has my attention atm, mainly because u can teleport to odd places lol.
     
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  7. HoboOnline

    HoboOnline Well-Known Member

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    Be patient.... Because there is a lot of things to consider.

    I'm working with 1h dagger atm. And I'm just only understanding the way the damage scales with mp and proration. But there are some unusual things happening... And I'm wondering if there is a bug with the skill. As the damage limits over 2m seem to force the boss to just become dead....but not dead. They're in a state of shock...where their health bounces back up to full, yet they're in the death animation.
     
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  8. Trippyyy

    Trippyyy Well-Known Member

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    xD thats quite broken
     
  9. MyLastDreams

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    ew...so that was never actually fixed.....sounds exactly like happened with saber aura + reflect.
     
  10. Prisma-C

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    Bowgun + Dagger results in an insane amount of ampr which allows you to sub snipe for arcane instead.
     
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  11. Trippyyy

    Trippyyy Well-Known Member

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    :O have to add bowgun to the poll now xD that was actually really nice. I like the way backstep compliments bow
     
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    Really curious about the details of your findings Hobo.
     
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  13. +Aria Kanzaki+

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    Up, I'm really curious about this Bowgun + dagger build, have you tested this build further? @Prisma-C since I've played with Bowgun+shield in the past and am aware of the huge advantage of it's ranged decoy ampr, spamming backstab could probably replace snipe instead while waiting for cf to charge, since backstab uses less mp.....
     

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