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The Guardian: Impenetrable Support Tank

Discussion in 'Brawler' started by Agidnis, Oct 19, 2016.

  1. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Oh.. So it was a full member pt..
    Those are bad coz there will be 1 person left out rankless most of the time if not always @.@
    So i always farm in a 3 member pt with my friends to make sure everyone gets a rank
     
  2. Agidnis

    Agidnis Well-Known Member

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    that always happen in my farming pt, I always hog tank and support. there's always 1 player left out of the rankings, usually a mage. even if I tell them to spam bless they still can't take support
     
  3. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    No support even tho bless spam?? :(
    Now i have a feeling that they will nerf guardian..
     
  4. Xiavu

    Xiavu Lurking Overlord of LOVE[L.O.L.] Elite Member Epic Member

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    Guardian is as good as it is. It is built for pure frontliner tanks, to add def to meele attackers at the cost of the casters attack. The bonus only affect and triggered when a party member(mostly meele types) are inside the aura circle(its like a moving sanctuary with the caster in the middle)
    Damage reduction only affect the guardian caster (it means the guardian casters attack is weaken)and only triggered by party member(they get the def bonus not the guardian caster) stepping inside the skill aura. w/out them guardian is just a giant save bait and useless; at least the caster still get the guard rate bonus.
    Guard strike is a passive skill very much like aggrivate and strong chase. It basically turn the caster into a purcupine reflecting damage that is guarded(imo the name should be changed to sheild bulwark or something more fitting to the actual function). It work best if u have high guardrate (shell sheild+guardian+guard strike+gloria) so u can just stand there and hopefully outlast ur target.
     
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  5. Xiavu

    Xiavu Lurking Overlord of LOVE[L.O.L.] Elite Member Epic Member

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    Btw, why not shove a gloria in the mix? Extra def and guard rate is always good. (Since im too lazy to make a guide better just refine the good ones)
     
  6. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Gloria is not worth it it needs cast time and stays only for 30sec guardian already gives high enough guard rate while extra def is not needed if you get high resistance
    The top line of priest skills are better for supporter classes since they can keep casting from a distance
    Skill points are very scarce even 5 skill points matter now coz new skills soon
     
  7. Xiavu

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    I think ived hit a brick wall, first i thought that qd is not essential to the build. But one time when i was on volg; i paired up with a DW just a few lvls higher than me. And i am jaw dropping shocked that he is able to take aggro away from me. And im having a hard time keeping up with my combos due to lack of mana (remember no qd). I noticed that he is able to complete his combos like crazy fast(since he is not being tossed around like a chew toy that i am). I now know that the lvl10 guardian aggro are not all too powerful but i still wish to make a tank. (After a few more rounds with the guy, i thanked him for his time and delet.... Remade my tank due to dissapointment). I guess ill be statting for aggro now and not hp just to hold aggro.
    By the way having a knuck sheild as a merc tank sucks! For some un known reason they are not able to hold any aggro at all; my sheild gunner do a much better job at aggro holding as a merc.
     
  8. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Do you know if you lag a tiny bit aggro wont be generated or if u dc get force close you will lose all aggro completely.
    Also I already reported the skill the aggro lock that it gave was in fact a bug it still generates huge aggro you just need to add more aggro equips, before guardian was announced i used to tank with a 5mp char and i would still hold aggro because of 59% aggro from my gears without using quickdraw, believe me its a sheer waste of 20sp to add qd to a char that doesnt even use long combos there are so many other skills that should be maxed instead, the sp are indeed scarce.
    I have a few suggestions use combos that are only 4 skills long---> 1mp skill+guardian(lvl10)(save)+skill(swift)+skill(swift) after that get aggro equips worth at least 20-30% use these and tell me the results again ^^
     

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