The Price guide (selling tricks & price)

*-* plan to do this for a long time...
but lazy :'P
and since i saw many people asking for prices ^^.........
so............

NOTE:
-it is not 100% accurate due to cb taxes+i cant read seller thoughts+market price changes frequently+ it depends on whether there is buyer who see ur equip
-i will not be responsible if u put the prices wrongly as 1s instead of 1m
-i will not be responsible if ur item is unable to sell
-if u hate me take it to pm else ill go on a tag spree
-for some items i DO NOT know prices of, comments are appreciated to improve it owo/
(of course u will be credited)

****if u want to know the price of an item, feel free to comment ill try my best to price it :"D******

< THIS IS MERELY an Estimate to help u in pricing/buying,you are free to price however u want >
....toram is big so if anyone shared the same ideas (for HOW to price ur item) and has already made a thread somewhere on the net before me i guess u can just delete this thread....

Link to spreadsheet (ALL PRICES ARE HERE)(alpha):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y6tohQAicZkobNQjnFzJQNFG3Lhh42ZnqtxzjqJ3Ib0/edit?usp=sharing (many to edit)

{Credits}:
@Taibasa Tsuyou for the old price guide
@June for the old market prices
@Wyrix for her lv100 stat list thread
@Blitzhartwright for the comment on 'All user'
@Honeybunch for testing how ALl user tax function works
@Mayora@ayame@ for all the info on tickets

Welcome to the spina guide *-*
contents:
-pricing list spreadsheet
-<how to price ur item> (eg how much do c999 A70 bg worth?..etc)
->how much do clean items worth?
->how much do items with refine worth?
->how much do dyes on items worth?
->how much do items with xtal worth
..many MORE
-How to predict the growth of apps
-How to sell quick & fast


>--------------------part 1-------------------------------------->>>>

-HOW TO PRICE UR item-

1. if ur item is CLEAN or/and above the base def/att (SLOT/NS)
< refer to my spreadsheet >


2. if ur item is with (lv110/120)stat: +300-700k to the price

Spoiler

Spoiler: examples of lv110/120 stat & how to stat them

cdmg12 str7% cdmg7%
crit11 crit11% cdmg11 cdmg7%
crit12 crit12% cdmg12 att7%
....and more
<refer to my spreadsheet>
visit this thread by @Wyrix for more info the stats (lv100)and how to stat them:
http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/stat-formulas.14521/

3. if ur item is not with (lv110/120) stat:

Spoiler

Spoiler: examples of stat below 110/120 stat

crit9% crit9 cdmg9 OR BELOW
str4% crit9 OR BELOW
cdmg4% crit9 OR BELOW
dex4% crit9 OR BELOW
etc.
OR
ceee
ceeed7%
etc
<refer to my spreadsheet>

4.if ur item is not with (lv120) stat BUT WITH MORE THAN 1 pot leftover:
<refer to my spreadsheet>

5. if ur item is lower than the base DEF/att
<refer to spreadsheet>

6.if ur item is with dye:

Spoiler

1)<refer to spreadsheet> (for the price of item and dye)
2)the item price+ dye price + a fee (optional) of 10- ???k (for synth troubles/dyes or apps lost during the process of synth )= ur final price

7. if ur item is NOT A GEAR/equip (aka material, drops, xtal etc...)

Spoiler

<refer to spreadsheet>

Spoiler: where to find the materials

http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/material-droplist-2-0-version-with-spreadsheet.15704/

8. if ur items is a event item:
<refer to spreadsheet>

9. if ur item is with refine:

Spoiler

for refine, add

E: +100k
D: +150-200k
C: +400-600k
B: +1-1.5m
A: +3-6m
S: +7m-12m

to ur total price

NOTE: cons of refine--if ur item is outdated refine will lose its worth

10. if ur item is with xtal:

Spoiler

<refer to spreadsheet> (for xtal price)

price of xtal+ ur item +small fee (optional)=total price

11. if ur item has APP:
[spoiler-
<refer to spreadsheet> (for app prices)

app price+ item price = total price
[/spoiler]
12. If ur item has few of the above points

Spoiler

EG.
-scale arm D40 ceee7% with roga xtal and black a dye
(arm +stat+xtal+dye)
-hallo arm d52 ceee cd7% with roga xtal, black a white b grey c
(arm+stat+app+xtal+ 3dye)

...and anything else u can think of

Spoiler

SIMPLY.... add prices up and adjust based on ur liking

*FOR ALLL OF THE ABOVE, if you are selling on cb, remember to adjust ur prices based on the taxes* (optional ofc)

13. ----to be updated----
>--------------------bonus segment-------------------------------------->>>>

Pros and cons. of stating/apping/adding xtals etc to arm.

Spoiler: stat

pros of adding stat
-more money
-more chances of players (NON BS)will buy ur item
(since dps/classes/players>BS, u will have more chance of selling it)

cons of adding stat
-will get outdated as lvl cap increase. (eg. c999 is outdated. c101010 stat7% will soon get outdated too when lv110 cap is out)
-only a specific class will buy ur item. (eg. if u do ceeed7% mostly sniper will buy. if ceeestr7% mostly 2h/fu will buy, if im7% ONLY mage will buy....etc)

Spoiler: app

pros of adding APP
-more money
-more chances of players who want the app and stat will buy ur item
-make item more attractive.

cons of adding APP
-not everyone likes that particular app. Even if the stat is what they want they MIGHT NOT buy it

Spoiler: xtal

pros of adding xtal
-more extra money
-more convenient/more people who want rare xtal with arm stat will buy. (eg. you want im7% arm with arco xtal, but cant find arco xtal. it will be more convenient to buy arm im7% with arco xtal)

cons of adding xtal
-arms get outdated everytime lvl increase by 10. And so does the xtal on the arm. You have to spend money to extract the xtal
-some people might not want the xtal

>--------------------part 2-------------------------------------->>>>

Growth of ARM apps (event apps)

not sure abt weapon apps since i never buy them oxo




ever wonder why some apps are more expensive :O?

Spoiler: long chunk of info

( EXAMPLES HERE ON PRICE IS UPDATED ON 2016 )
reason 1 for op price- it is obtained long long ago where not much pp played toram. eg hallo app, it is obtained last year around OCT when we are all in the poor 10-100k times. This is toram (beta)'s first event, so naturally most just craft a few/enough for self.

result:not much hallo running around in toram, which means op price

reason 2 for op price-time=price. Longer time past means more n more newbies joining toram and more and more 'old newbies' becoming oldies/experienced (is that what u call ' ')/). So these new 'oldies' will try to get their hands on event item....and woosh price rose o3o/

reason 3 for op price- the app itself lol. Some apps are nicer than others .-./ or more popular. eg. santa vs swimsuits. santa is 250k+- while swim is hitting 200k, even though swim is released recently. because swim is more popular than santa . <---this also depends on how the mats are gotten, eg santa u run everywhere for quest, but swim u farm a crapppy boss for its rare drop

reason 4 - pp getting 'clever'. From hallo &santa incidents pp learn to 'keep' arm apps to sell for higher. so in hinami arms are flying everywhere but not equip apps. Since there are lesser equip apps it will cost higher than sakura arms even though the gems needed is much fewer.lol

lel more to come when i remember

 

>--------------------part 3-------------------------------------->>>>

HOW TO SELLL QUICK AND FASTTTT... ;-;

1. price it cheap

Spoiler

cheap things sell faster, BUT beware of the few things:

Spoiler

-do not price ur item wrongly, 1m to 1s on board
-do not make it too cheap eg.50% of the price it worth, UNLESS it is an OUTDATED EQUIP/STAT
-still enough for u to profit or lose only a bit of money

2. put in ALL USER/WORLD

Spoiler

which to put...???!?!?!??!!
pros and cons of...

Spoiler

ALL USER
pros: fast to sell if EQUIP IS CHEAP / WORTH A LOT (aka op equip)/ if u want more chance of buyers buying
cons: ur equip will be gone very fast from the 'register date part' to sum up after 1h ur equip will be buried in the sea and people might not see it. TO prevent this you will have to frequently take it down and put it up on board. You will also have more taxes (aka more money scammed by the board)

WORLD
pros: opposite from ALL BUYER's cons
cons: opposite from ALL BUYER's pros


NOTE: IF U ARE A BUYER do check world out because equips in world are usually cheaper*

HOW do taxes work

1.10% fixed tax on board
give u 90% of the money when u sold an item
EXAMPLE
u have item on board for 10m, and sold
u get: 9m from board
......

2.taxes from ALL users function
the more items u buy the more tax u will have from 'ALL user' function
example
u choose all user function with 12% additional tax
put a arm for 10m on board
buyers NOT FROM UR CH (eg.jap server etc) will see: 11.2m
if sold u still earn 9m. (10% fixed tax from board)

Example no.2
u put hallo 1.1m on board, on 'ALL user' function, which has 12% tax

result: buyer will see ur hallo as 1.232m instead of 1.1m
----while u still profit same price of 1m----

credits to @Honeybunch for testing and proving it



HOW to decrease 10% fixed taxes

1.) leveling ticket
gives -30% consignment fee

2.) standard ticket
gives -20% consignment fee

By buying both of these you get a total of -50% consignment fee(fee is the 10% of the price seller is has to pay if the item gets sold)

EXAMPLE
E.g if we sell for example roga xta for 2m on cb, we will have to pay 200k to the cb once it gets sold (10% fixed consig fee from board)
If we sell it after buying both tickets, we will only have to pay 100k to the cb if it gets sold
That is 5% of the total price



>>So if you are selling cheaper stuff 1k-10k ranging mats buying the tickets wont help much
>>But for selling stuff at prices 1m+ they are definitely useful to get you more spina from cb

credits to Mayora@ayame@ for the discovery+example+explanation

more to come when i think of it.....

 

Never knew world and all user existance XD thanks a lot for info.

 

u forgot cons of all user mode, buyer's will have to pay tax.
also im not sure how tax calculated because it changed randomly(?)

anyway nice guide

 

thxxx >~< updated it~

no tax depends on the amount of things u buy
aka u will have more taxes if u buy a bulk of items worth 1s on board.

idk if taxes do decrease because i keep buying things ' ')/
example
ur selling hallo grab
put 1.1m because of 10% tax. you have additional 12% tax by choosing All users
result---> other players/buyers will see 1.232m
^ i have not yet test the above since i cannot see the items im selling :"D

 

*added bonus segment*

 

At first I thought what you put onto the Total Price for your item would be exactly displayed & viewed by others, even with taxes.
Then I've read on a thread somewhere before, similar like this...

I wanted to know but then no one confirmed about it. Until this thread existed & the result topic got me curious, so I decided to figure it out myself and share it here.

I did this just a couple of mins. ago, as I'm posting a reply. I used my gf's & my own account to view results, and items that only a few were registered on the consignment board.

• All Users

I got a Sashimi Plate which I buried on my stash since I began playing Toram lol. Searched it on CB and nothing's registered so I used it.


Tried to searched it a few mins. after registering, and there you go.


I also included the World category...

• World

I used Sparkling Dragon Eye. There were a few on board.

I registered one for a troll price.

And the result.


Hope this information helped. : )
And I better take down those items, or else I'll get lmao.

 

omgggggg thxxxxxxxx >~<
^ that is what i thought and wanted to test it for a long time :"DDDDD but no alt....rip ;-;

XD ill update it now~~
o-o lel rip if ur gf sees this /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

nice hammers

 

I like the idea of this thread!
It is currently hard to read visually, if you ever update & organize the thread let me know! I would love to link it in Merchant Directory.

 

thxxx >~<
im gambling almost everything on the spreadsheet :"D
ill organise it with more spoilers and reduce the words after the spreadsheet is done *^*

atm this thread is good if u are tired and cant fall asleep

 

If you need help making it look pretty let me know
Im excited to see this magical spreadsheeeeeet!

 

Owo now I know how to sell better

 

*UPDATED*
spreadsheet (alpha) is out <ill edit along the way>
parts to be added:
clean equips
outdated stats
lots of other things

 

I was wondering how that all user tax worked, now I know.

 

*updated yelb mats*

 

*updated part 2*

 

*updated black knight xta and dye*

 

Cool...

 

Ok i just found out how people are selling stuff at 5% fee instead of 10%..
By buying asobimos monthly subscriptions
1.) leveling ticket
Which gives -30% consignment fee
2.) standard ticket
Which gives -20% consignment fee
By buying both of these you get a total of -50% consignment fee(fee is the 10% of the price seller is has to pay if the item gets sold)
E.g if we sell for example roga xta for 2m on cb, we will have to pay 200k to the cb once it gets sold
If we sell it after buying both tickets, we will only have to pay 100k to the cb if it gets sold
That is 5% of the total price
.
.
.
So if you are selling cheaper stuff 1k-10k ranging mats buying the tickets wont help much
But for selling stuff at prices 1m+ they are definitely useful to get you more spina from cb

 

thxx did u made that pic

thxxx >~</ ill give u a egg as reward owo/
*^* ill add this to the thread~

i never bought any tickets :"> ...never know they existed~