Toram Lore: Is Iruna obligatory to understand? is it worth playing?

Nice, so doing this risky bet that Monk Stats should be similar to Brawler in Toram was good at the end. That's quite a relief to hear I won't be needing to farm that cursed Eye again or go to Forgotten cave.
With all the information you and others here are giving, it's making me want to play Iruna, I wonder if I can go far with these tips (and tricks I guess?)

Also, currently the best way I found to get spina is selling the Lava Guard Additional that these flaming fishes (Warm) Drop, sells by 1500 each, quite nice but I want to know where I can find a good item to sell to these guys. Am I supposed to sell these blank crystas to the NPC's? it's the only option I have so better be it xd
How much CRIT I need for something similar to Full crit 100% accuracy like toram?

Thank you a lot for the information, not for the MQ info tho :V

 

Not sure, but you have a base of 5% and 3crt=+1% with a cap on 95%rate so even with 300+crt you still have a small chance of missing/white dmg.

And actually, farming lava guard isn't a bad idea; if you happen to get a 2s you should be able to sell for a few hundred millions and be able to get decent gears. Selling to npc can be kinda useful, but the good money is at raids. Sell beads, SP.Rev Ale or even ☆Abilities. Again, Iruna isn't new friendly so if you have trouble, try looking for a guild; If you don't deliberately beg usually people will be happy to help, usually with mq and sometimes lving, not many carry extra gear but if you get to raid 140 you could sell Beads, Empty Crysta, ☆ abi like maybe ☆Crt or ☆Vit, Halios is still worth as a meele to light for ele weapons. You don't need to fight to get drops, just don't linger after it's over cuz if someone is still in the raid map after it's over, a new one can't start quickly and no one likes that. I'd like to say prices but I haven't been playing for a while, last I played an Empty was worth like 40m, takes 15 of basic element and 3light and dark beads to make 1 Empty.

 

Iruna- My take on your notes + my own.

=In all things that I hate from Iruna, Production is the most fair one, Confusing as hell and no Information like everything else, but at least they provided the Recipes.
=Didn't experience Group chats but sounds good from what you guys told me. Hope toram gets one soon

="Has a variety of classes", which some, if you are a newbie, never even dream of getting- or is too hard and no one will invite you.. (It can be a general RPG problem but Iruna has a Special case with inflation so, yeah..)

* Monks. Unlike toram Monks from Iruna are actually warriors and useful for something. Only thing I could say I hate on toram and love on Iruna..
=Don't have a pet but hope they are good if I even get one.

="After a certain point I can pretty much do a lot more on my own. Depending on your gear and what class you choose." This.. speaks for itself I think.
= And I personally like to get fucked.. but most people don't like it, specially when they can't choose. (I don't want to be mean or anything, cursing personally is funny for me and I do with the impression that people may find it funny too, that being said I hope you get why I compared these things. If It's not clear on my part I can explain)

=Didn't try events.. too busy trying to understand this game .-.)

=Can't avoid Parties if I really want to go high level.. as I said before this game feels like it was made to work around it's problems, rather than fix the problems..

Toram- Same shet

+MQ is easy to solo AS IT SHOULD. They aren't crap easy as you seem to mean, specially in lather bosses (Specially, Speecialllyyyy the recent ones that are honestly unfair, but "Unfair" After Iruna has a new meaning and I digress criticizing Toram. Bosses being 20 levels ahead of you when Leveling without unfun boosting is Impossible/Possible and ridiculously tedious and boring is BULLSHIT. Games should NEVER work like that. This is a PROBLEM, not a feature. I understand you feel that way but I solely believe this idea is wrong and terrible for any game.

+Well.. I do prefer getting rewarded with by so wanted skills after hard hours of Leveling. Not depending on pure RNG from monsters and shady quests like Iruna. But there could be a better way to handle skills, I liked the idea someone had of using Skill Slots, that could be great for the game in many ways. but we are talking about Asobimo, and when they decide to do something a certain way, They NEVER go back or change it. They decided skill trees, it will be skill trees, forever. Just like they decided all the shit from Iruna and in 7 years didn't fix any of those problems. Their games are gold, the company is garbage... at least at the side of the people in charge of Iruna, and some aspects of Alchemia (Or as I nicknamed it: Grinding hellstory).
The creativity isn't really needed, you can just copy paste builds or get the most popular builds and do similar, but change some aspects of it, Like I do with my Brawler. Copied a skill build from a youtuber but kept the things I like to use, such as quick aura and floating kick (Amazing skill animation, should be more important). Creativity is good but all you really need is know how to use the skills you have, have been you the creator of the build or not.

.....-EvERyTHiNG Is AffoDAbLe...........................................................................................................................................................................................
This is not true, even if it was Half true it would not be bad. this is just stupid. You sound like you enjoy Unfair hard games like Iruna, and somehow hate Newbie-Friendly EFFORT to win (and fun) games like Toram. Some kind of stockholm syndrome? Idk what it is but it's a harmful behavior, complacent behavior that allows companies to think their unfair shit is justifiable.
I mean, some people still Defend godam EA =to this day.

*You know, I like to tell myself Iruna is like a ugly but detailed Paper, and toram a Well modeled statue. A paper can't be bent to be 3D without looking like a cube or some horrible shape, and statues are beautiful 3D but can't hold many details and quite ugly when painted.
The animation and models are great on toram but the colors, specifically speaking the characters, are very plain, relying on ambiance shadowing to feel realistic, while Iruna has Ugly shapes but detailed character pixels. Would pick Toram graphics over Iruna any day tho.
And also, I personally like that Iruna have this square shaped graphic models, it reinforces that it is the Past and old >:v

+Bosses are needed for Leveling, Great EXP leveling in fact, Items (venena crit Items are a gods given), Armors, Etc...
but, it's true that you will be farming more Mobs than Bosses, but doing boss runs is really fun tho. Specially with friends in a party, which.. I honestly miss having..

+Well, can't say much but to go explore the possibilities. You can do a lot of things, they all do involve farming mobs or bosses repeatedly, but repeating select things is something JRpg do and Japanese love to waste their lives repeating the same action apparently.
I have made Spina from Selling popular but hard to make- Additionals, Apps, potions, Xtalls (When lucky) and the list goes.. The methods vary a Lot depending on just what you can do, and your patience. Some items are only expensive, not for being rare, but because people don't have patience to go farm them.

+Unlike Iruna where the bosses have magnetic attacks *THAT CRIT*, you can avoid attacks in toram, Needing a pt or not is up to you and your skill, you want to solo? Pay attention to patterns, use the openings bosses give for you to counter attacks, etc.. Unless you are a mage, you can solo, but you need to do some training. But yes, sometimes soloing can be near impossible, that's what parties are for. I don't understand why you don't like needing parties on Toram, it's not like you need High level players to boost you, you are partying with similar level players, and you can even have a good time interacting with them.. I really don't get how it is bad. Perhaps I'm just oblivious to some detail.

"Toram is a game where I feel defeated and lost at times. I just try to avoid being the center of someones insults or rage"
That's very common to any Game, of any genre.. but I know well that toram has some stupid problems, nowhere near bad as Iruna but it does...
And, lol, you complain about being Lost while saying you like to have zero map localization or map compilation.
And Not licking raging idiots, nobody does, although the only insults I got in 4 years were passive aggressive assholes making comments on how bad at something I was. Never full blown rage. Perhaps I got lucky... I don't see much toxicity in Toram, but I'm aware the player base is Less and less patience over the updates.
Well, every spell has a curse, Iruna has some cool things but too many problems, Toram is good but also have problems, but not so bad problems, and is an evolved, upgraded version of it's predecessor.

Thanks for the patience.

 

I can't sell for millions because I have no Stalls.. You mean group chat then? I wonder who would want a begginer, generic item for millions .-.)
..Is there something I'm missing?

 

When I say lost I mean on builds mixing skills from skill tress. I don't think I can fully understand what someone else created. I'm just more iruna minded I guess. I just learn the skills of that class.
The map over time just sticks to your memory. You will learn secrets and easier ways to certain locations.

Also I already deal with a lot of assholes in real life. Sometimes I just want to have a relaxing time and play without dealing with ones online. Of course that issue is with any game.I'm currently playing between Iruna and toram though.

Iruna makes you work for what you want and I like that. You learn and grow. It is not easy mode. It isn't unfair in my opinion, it just makes you think and work. It takes some time. When I first started out on iruna compared to now. I really came a long long way. I will mention though my main on iruna is a summoner.

You will look back at your journey. All the people you met and friended everything you fought through. You get to a point where your on your own two feet. It depends if you like a challenge or not. I could level multiple chars to cap in a few days on toram. Iruna I'm still grinding.

I don't think it should be easy because theres not much fun in that like auto games. I'm not saying it shouldn't have been made that way. I just feel it is more fun when there are hurdles to get over. Iruna mq bosses are weaker though just on the basis of a more challenging weak.

There where times when I was stuck but I fought through a boss on my own I felt rewarded for it.
Mq Joshuca I used to complain about why they would make a hard boss like that. I fought through it felt rewarded for it after.

When I say affordable as in I don't need to use a middle man or mutiple accounts to trade for an item.

In the end though Jp iruna I believe things are better over there. I'm not really going to say En Iruna is perfect but I've played worse(Twom~The world of magic~).I don't think I've explained myself well but I tried. I'm just the kind of person, while growing up, who spent hours on hard mode in games trying to overcome obstacles. Why do I play Toram because there are personal obstacles I haven't really overcome and it just lures me in to beat them.

 

I think 2s equips are much rarer in Iruna, so a lava guard 2s would definitely sell over 100m, stalls sale limit is 100m per item so if you had stall and decided to sell it there than you'd be losing profit. If it isn't 2s then just keep selling them at npc.
Usually people buy begginer gear with 2s because they're easier to get, and ppl want a drop set so they'll shove 2 currones in everything they have, hence why a Chainmail 2s would sell fairly easily. To sell things to player you need to A) Spam it at rkk or B) Make a trade chat and carry on what you're doing.
Stall is only useful to sell easy to get items, any decent slotted equipment will usually be priced above 100m (Like a slotted Struggler which was around 140m no up or Bellow of Order which was 300m+ last I checked)so stall loses it's worth the later into the game you are. I got free coins from Feb daily login and got stall, I usually just sell Thick Remagic cuz it's easy to make, in demand, but it really doesn't sell for enough to make me dedicate myslf to make them to afford my equips.

 

I could understand not having a map when you are in a realistic game, Like ARK Evolved and other similar, then sure, for the realism you won't have a Map that reveals all. Or you can build a map on your Own like Minecraf (One of the most fun things for me to do, making entire walls of maps like a puzzle).
Iruna is already messy, uninformative and confusing, you already have to spend SO MUCH TIME just researching and researching and researching to know what the fuck to do in this game that, not having at least the name of the next map show up when you get near (Like with blacksmiths and alchemists in Rokoko) Is just Another wasting of time. Not to there are TOO MUCH MAPS. You can't expect to memorize by force all these maps, even if you do, how long will it take?
It's and inconvenience, and hold you back from going to places you Need to go because you.. Don now da wae.

Toram Also makes you work for what you want. Even More I should say because unlike Iruna, Toram Economy isn't locked behind stupid paywalls (one unfair part of Iruna, from all the others), You have to do all on your own, no equipment or xtall will happily walk towards you, you have to work to get them.
I do look back to when I started and everything I went trough, the problem is that Toram is Work to win and Iruna Pay for fun.
I swear I can almost HEAR Asobimo screaming in my ears "BUY MY SHIIT" when I play Iruna, The game doesn't look or feel hard because it is complex or challenging, it feels like they did that on purpose so to annoy the players and make them not have many options But to BUY the EXP tickets and the Economy system.
Or Iruna doesn't have that much content and they want to keep you stuck where you are while they develop something else.
Old games did it a lot, when games had low memory and supported only a few Levels, the Developers made the games HELL impossible on purpose so you don't realize you could beat the game in 3 minutes if not for the ridiculous difficulty.

Be it Greed or Lack of content, The difficulty in Iruna is everything BUT fun, fair or rewarding. It's forced.
And you talked about bosses being too easy on Toram.. That's one reason to Why you can make the difficulty higher there, so you have a more challenging fights, Normal is too easy? Try nightmare, try Ultimate! the boss patterns change in each mode so have fun with the harder boss.

The best thing about Toram, over Iruna, is that YOU choose when something will be disgustingly hard, while on Iruna things are ridiculously hard for no reason and options to solve the difficulty are the most boring anti-fun unrewarding things ever.
I knew that at some point, my EXP would start to come in small bits and would be harder to level up there, but getting micro centimeters of Exp at level 65??? at lvl70????? THE GAME HAS 400+ LEVELS CAP, What the actual fuck is this? Again, this feels a LOT like Iruna is just compensating Lack of content by wasting your time and Stucking you in a hard boss for no reason.

They do Not Feel like actual challenges, Actual challenging games could be Dark souls and.. This other Titan game that I don't remember the full name))
Point is, They are MADE to BE difficult Aimed for people who Like this style, While Iruna feels like an RPG that lacks content and wants to STUCK your ass on the ground because they didn't make enough content. Not "Challenge", but company shenanigans.

It's ok If you like the hard difficulty, Like I said there is people that like this kind of game, What I'm putting in question is that Iruna doesn't feel Hard because it was made to be challenging, It feels hard because of all the bullshit they made.

A little metaphor: You can like the purified water you drink, but it came from rivers of shit and it disgusts me.

I get it, I can't explain myself well enough sometimes, most of the times in fact.. That's why I like to challenge myself doing these kinds of Postings and Debating. I was shit back then and couldn't argue with people without missing points and losing attention to important things, Now I'm more centered, still quite shit but evolved xD
The best part in my opinion, Is learning how to use Anger and redirect it to make constructive critics. I mean.. I lost my head a little bit in this tread Not gonna lie... But my points are, well, On point.

As Akali says (yes, from LoL): Don't waste your Anger, canalize it.

 

I need to go sell on Group chats then? I still didn't quite get where you want me to sell the items.
2slot anythings aren't like, 1 change in a million to get? And lol what Curonne xtall stats are?

Good to know Stalls loose their worth a little, still, Having a stall would Help A LOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooootttt..

And, what are some easy items I can produce to sell at group chats? I don't mind medium difficult items to farm. Even better if I can get more spina.

 

Currones are for drop rate basically. Rare drop rate up a little. Put it in toy gloves or any cheap 2s gear. I've gotten multiple cheap 2s from low level mobs. Farming with aoe class. With aoe I would try for it.

Also about the work to play I don't feel it that much. I feel like if I spent more time trying in the shop for slotters and saving up gems, then I do farming scrapping up spina, I would make a better living.Toram in game shops is way more generous than in Iruna. At least it feels that way to me.

Also the only good thing out of those Iruna tickets are the exp boost. I've gone without those features for years its honestly a waste of money other than that. You have group chats and its easier than trying to out spam battle people.

The work I put it feels meh at times. Mat farm even with a luk mage drop rates feels insane on certain mobs. I just go back to square one the same usual farms. What I'm doing now I'm truly getting nowhere. I'm trying to open up to different ways.
I wish farming a boss wasn't pointless besides for leveling, for indiviuals like me who are unlucky or just don't do gem runs. I remember a time when crystal armor was popular. So hard of a drop people didn't even believe it existed.
They give you options but at the same time they really don't. I know its still growing it just feels limited in some ways.

Yes I'm aware of the others modes I was just saying personally I just enjoy how iruna is. I'm glad it is optional on Toram. I'm not gonna take a bullet for i
Iruna but I'm just saying it's possible to survive.

I'll also add if you continue playing I don't mind showing you some of the loops around iruna.

 

Sadly Monk and Cleric aren't Aoe. So I have to suck the 1x1 farming. Welp, I hope the work will compensate when I finally get apprentice monk..
And yes, I'm determined to play Iruna, still angry about some things, being crited by a monster feels ridiculous, at least healers aren't useless /'-')/

And I'm still having problems selling things, Group chat seems promising, but most people there are selling or Buying High level shit.
I just need to type what I want to sell and done? I will watch some videos on it but direct information is always good.

 

healers(bishops) in iruna were more useful back then when they could spam ressurection every second with good -delay gear....now theres a nerf of 30sec time limit between each resu buff cuz of the massive rebalance patch

and if you know overdrive skill in toram, iruna has an op version of it called outflow(which led me to quitting the game when they introduced a mq boss with that skill in ep5) what outflow does is: reduce all heals from any heal skill to 1 and continue draining your hp by a significant% every tick and it can kill you if your hp not enough

tho if u want to farm bosses that arent too hard which drops sell quite well then you can go to the eternal maze where valuable drops from bosses starting from 190+ exists compared to drops of bosses of similar lvl outside the maze

also if you make it to the end of mq ep2, the boss there is somewhat of an op version of F.viola
and if you need links to any of the iruna database stuff just lmk cuz i have saved some of them

 

It's quite funny to hear I will only get good spinas at 100lvl boss, 200 lvlboss, when I'm still stuck at 75 xD
Leveling to 120 is my priority for now, so.. what you suggest me?

 

try raids. the best raids are the lv120, 140 and 160/180 ones. for newbies just do mq til u reach 140 to do raids gain money staying at raids for long periods of time can get you 100m/day but for casuals you can set a quota of how much M's youll only get in a day. after getting the spinas to get weapons, armors and adds (ns/1s) continue mq. mq can get you to around lv320~ and continue farming/grinding from there. find a guild, your life will be so easier with a helpful guild. if you have a hard time doing mq/bosses, get help from guildmates or gc. leveling and farming from normal mobs/mini bosses are so much easier because of the new party area system (510% exp and 370% drop rate boost), you can get to cap in a week if you really just have the time lol (from lv1-400~) doin mq from lv370.

i dont actually think that iruna isnt newbie/casual friendly. you just need to know what to do (do some research) and youll have an easier time rather than mindlessly wandering lol. people who say iruna's community is so toxic, because they entered an unhelpful guild or min/max party that only wants the best players to get the best outcome, havent really been in the game for long theres alot of helpful guilds (held fun guild events for easy spina) and kind players who will help you coz they have nothing to do. farming and grinding is a very important part of the game but you dont need to grind/farm everyday to be op, just take your time farming just comes down to your luck. one player can farm wholeday to get 2-3 xtals or go home with nothing or a casual that just farms/grinds for an hour or two to have progress and might get lucky with farming. little progress is better than no progress hehe. also even tho graphics looks so old it still looks good for me tho, maybe people are just used to the new high end graphics and not used to the old pixelated polygonal graphics. dont stress or rush, just take your time and have fun, and enjoy the storyline whilst fighting difficult bosses (do mq with someone else so it wont be so boring). look out for maps/mobs/bosses that looks simillar in iruna and toram, itll add more to the enjoyment lol thats all i can say for now hope you have fun playing iruna

 

tbh, after reading that, this is so true that I left iruna cuz i made my char ench. What's more is its hard to find a pt cuz most players PaRtY wAnTs An aLL aOe(hw, bish, pally, mins, serv), and sadly, enchanters dont have any aoe(pls tell me if they add an aoe skill for it).

welp as for the question, well yeah, play iruna or not, you can still enjoy toram its just that some characters from iruna are still here in toram, kinda nostalgic, and the character developments they made(cuz u know, like those ppl in dark realm, u beat the sht outta them in iruna).

 

Ench still don't have aoe, but with the party thing they implemented a few months ago, most jobs are relevant for pt, even if people mostly look for em for an exp buff instaed of their individual capabilities.

In the end, most single target killers have a hard time grinding(as in exp/hr, not mob killing capabilities), while aoe killers arent the best at consistent boss rushing. Except bish/serv. Reason why bish is a recomended starter job. You tap nem and you heal when hp low. Thats it.

Different sets can be used like a lot of -delay gears to buff, acompanied by a -100% mpc to be useful during those mp drain/mp wipe bosses. A counter set isn't as necesary anymore for solo, and sod can double as dmg gear and counter gear so you already have 25% of both sets with 1 weapon.

 

you can run echies on cheap gear and still wreck bosses (cmoon2s dhelm2s). for the grinding, shouldve grinded with guildues or solo or find low lvls to leech.

 

You Can't do 100% crit. It's stated on every forums I search. It's only 95% even at Max Crt stat.
Leveling now is easy with or without exp gain bonuses.
Most classes noe use Agi for survival. I use Agi on every Class I make. I have knight lvl 107 which isn't boosted by anyone future Gladi. I have Cleric lvl 100+ isn't boosted by anyone, future monk. I have Bishop currently lvl 356, lvl solo from 1 to 136, and boosted by someone to 200+ and mq another lvl ups and party up with anyone who wants heal (mostly from group chat) episode 4 now XD. Busy in real life~
I have Enchanter lvl 359 boosted by everyone who needed a bonus exp (till 354, "I was gonna go when someone needed member for bonus so I join in since they're being Looking for 1hrs or so) for (adventurer, app.mage / mage, app.warrior/ warrior). "I have to admit, Enchanter is Hard but with max agi, you can survive mq." Currently episode 3 apostolia. Enchanter (aka "Ench") is a job that rarely see's party for bonus exp. Good thing is, I have bishop who needs bonus and that's my character too XD. Though my damage on magic blade 1 is below 70k but magic blade 2 is 100k (100k+ if with element against mobs weakness). Equipment is 1s. (I can use anything, since I max out Agi. "I mean any weapon"). Spina is hard to farm? "Yes" you need to observe things that sells high or just do mq till your lvl is high enough to farm boss below lvl 250 when you're lvl 300+ after mq and on episode 6 chapter 1.
I have guild mate who is solo and still has newbies equip, job is assasin, and episode 6 stuck on Lydia, I tried to help, but was hopeless too against the freeze (debuffs or whatever (I don't know any term, or I was just dumb) ). So he just farms and farms to earn spina to buy equipments for his assasin.

The Stall? Just login Everyday. You wasted 2 years? Worth of everyday logins just like me to save up coins to buy 2 stalls, shelf A and Shelf B. And you can buy things you want too with save up coins. 200 coins per month times 2 years, 200×24= 4800 coins..... Hmmm I wasted the same amount (I'm currently on 200 coins on bishop and 100 coins in Enchanter, for stall XD buying Tilia Stall , "different account that's why different amount ) (late realization until someone who is a friend on mine in game point it out .)

If you're new to iruna, I suggest doing MQ first is the right choice. Observe EVERY exp you get on mobs. 20 levels is the difference to get the exp amount you need to lvl up 20 levels to (for exp you are lvl 100 and fought lvl 110 mobs, then you'll be able to reach lvl 130 with the same mob but I suggest you move on to another mob when you're 10 lvls higher with the same mob) BUT I lvl my cleric on mobs that 10 to 5 lvls higher than mine and exceed them until when Exp is lower than 70% when I first grind in them for everal levels. For example I grind colon lvl 100 when I'm lvl 90, and I get 50k exp, and when we're on the same lvl I get 70k exp, and when I'm higher at lvl 110 vs lvl 100 I get below 70k, and that continues until the exp drop below 55k and I move to another map to grind lvl to a mob who is 10 or 20 lvl higher than me. Since I have heal, It's alright to grind mob 20 lvls above you, but if 20 lvls difference don't give much exp then do 19 to 10 lvl difference. (This lvl info is observed by me and another player who is a sniper. "I forgot, exp gain increase too when u summon a pet too, but if you're in a party and leeching, partying isn't worth it, unless you're in PTA (party area) which gives bonus exp. He and I lvl on the same mobs until I met someone who told me I can boost my lvl till 300 but I boost mine till 200+ as far as I remember, it's been a month since that lvl boost happened and a lot happened in my personal life so my memory on game blur so forgive me XD, anyways that's not important, the important part is, I still observe exp to guide someone who don't want to be boost, but lvling guides is in YouTube now a days, so my information and guides is pretty useless now if I say so myself)
Just login Everyday for Login bonus for 4 or 5 months to be able to buy stall, and you'll be able to save up coins to buy Tilia Stall worth 400 coins or for the sake of savings, 2 months worth of daily logins, since you only get 200 coins per month so 4 or 5 months can buy you another "chat stall" for 350 coins, the rest of the coin is for your storage expansion now. I'm pretty sure somebody shared all of this info, the problem is, I can't find them .

 

2s or 2 slot equpments is pretty expensive now, and worth selling for my own opinion, cause 1s equipment is good enough to farm another 2s to sold to someone else and buy crsyta for your future 2s equipment and to make your character strong.

Don't mind it was just, farming 2s is hard.
And. I don't have 2s equipment cause it's expensive~
Probably better to guide someone with 1s equipment. Don't set the bar too high. 1s/1 slot equipment is enough to get by, and 2s is for later when you're rich.

 

1 week work to get 2s base on my experience. And said Experience, I don't have and never have got my hands on 2s equipment.
You should farm 1s equipment first, they still sell for 100m+ and someone sells it to 300m+ with+9 and fully upgraded or LU?
I don't have the patient to sell at group chat since I'm busy in real life . And if you're not busy and can wait, then you will be able to sold. I sold items on group chat too! But never out of stack so I stopped and I just grind levels and farm item to sold at "shop" (normal shop at any merchant) I farm items that sold at shop for 5k+ per piece. Not worth the time though. Since I Generate 1m per 3 hours of farming after selling the item to shop, and if you ask me if a player will buy it? NO, it's just some drop by a normal mobs that sells high but quite a rare drop like an item called "spent evil eye" that drops on a bat like monster. But spent evil eye is not that hard a drop if you have a guild that has lvl 10 drop rate bonus and a summoned pet while killing the mobs.

Note:
You will need to save up 50m for all the skills whichever the class job you're gonna get.

 

If you ask me if I'm new in Iruna and Toram?
Not so much, I played Iruna a long time ago and stopped when Lvl is really hard for cleric you know?....
I was still a young kid at that time that is why I don't know how to play it....

And Toram? I found Toram before they released it on playstore, There's so much change on maps, and maps that were removed in their, and the starting map is new.

I found Toram online when I got bored playing Iruna and Avabel. And I played Toram since then, and stopped after I broke my only device. It's been so long before I got my own new device right now.