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Discussion in 'Toram Online In Game Issues / Device Support' started by HoboOnline, Mar 2, 2019.

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  1. Ravelt99

    Ravelt99 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a computer expert therefore I don't exactly know how these servers work but we can enter International server if we use Japan Account
     
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    WindSlash Guardian Angel of Picos Elite Member

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    So pissed off at asobimo, they went into the server room at 1-2am to piss on the servers... yeah...

    I still think a Denial of Service problem is more viable reason.
     
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  3. Soul Nomad

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    Personally I think the devs did it themselves unintentionally. Server started lagging after the post mq maintenance so I wouldn't be suprised if they accidentally messed up the system with the patch they implemented
     
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    No, it was the man on the grassy knoll...

     
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    that's why you are not a computer expert. International world is not Internation server. They are two different things. The servers that actually hold your account data from Thailand, United States, Indonesia, etc are the Internation servers. Those are the ones that are being down right now, so you can't log in.

    Those account servers cannot be affected by botting, because the only thing they hold is your authentication information. If someone designed them to also do the real-time responses to events generated by users then that person would be fired 10 years ago, when cloud computing was not even popular yet.
     
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    Playing The binding of Isaac aftherbirt + and try to complete it at 1000001 %:biblethump:
     
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    DoS won't melt the server down. It will just interrupt the working server for a period of time. Detecting DoS is actually not that hard, so it would not last this long.

    Unless someone use DoS to find a time windows to sneak past the security before the overloaded checks can run, then took control of the server and deleted all the data inside. That would not be a DoS attack anymore, that's a typical hacking operation, initialized by a DoS.
     
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    Lel someone "wannacry'd" aso. Look up wannacry on YouTube. Don't Google it. No this didn't actually happen...
     
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    I felt some sort of madness, cause what came into my mind is toram always said that they're fixing the bug and terribly sorry, but why every time i read that sentence, the thought that came to mind is

    " if you guys ashamed/terribly sorry, why you only have to go work like a normal day, like going work about 11am(or8)-5pm? Can you guys give some effort and do some overtime/early access to work, if you guys trully care on us!!!?"

    I know im bad with that thought... :(
    But i cant help it, thats always came to my mind...

    Maybe there's a law on them that employees can only work for about 8hrs, no time for overtime (i dunno eithr)
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    i heard that Japan has made some rules like.. Max. Hours for Workers to work. (?? sorry i have bad english lmao??) so it could push down the Suicidal Rate (?) well, its just a Rumor and i dont exactly know about it. (since im not living in japan xD)
     
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    Well, I dont know the technical term for the situation is, but when I said DoS problem, I was thinking of the situation where too many clients try to a request access to the server... But the server cant handle them all and end up denying access to everyone... and sometimes this ends up in aserver crash. I was not exactly talking about a DoS Attack. =.=

    Anyway, It's more likely in this situation that too many people logged i coz of Weekend boosts, and the boost are on new boss and solopy,who are very popular for their DPS and -aggro related drops. Add in the fact that we have +18 gears now, botters capitalizing on that and would be farming mat points for those too. The Int1 server could only fit in so many people.
     
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    That is the definition of a DoS attack sir. In my 10 years working in this field, I have never heard of any other definition. (DoS = Denial of Service). It just that DoS attack first to open a window of opportunity to bypass security checks is a classic attack. No one really DoS for fun, they do it to weaken the security.

    There are a few misunderstandings from your side:
    1. Int1 did not crash. It works just fine. If you log in right now using a JP account, you can go to Int1 no problem.
    2. What crashed was not the event handling servers (Int1 is one of them), but either the account authentication server or the proxy servers or the gateway servers. That would explain why JP accounts can log in but others can't. It has nothing to do with the amount of people farming on "international world 1" server or any server. Because they do different things. So everyone in this thread can just shove the bots-crashing-my-server theory up their where-the-sun-never-shines. It triggers me every time people spread hoaxes like that and act like they know shit. But I held it until now. This comment is like my Magic Burst, except it's not magic, it's Bullshit Burst.
    3. In a DoS attack, the servers can be quickly rebooted, it would normally not take this much time because Asobimo does not own their own servers, they just rented it from a third party cloud business, who would handle this sort of thing for them. The reason why it is taking them this much time is unknown to us, but in my experience, the scenario of losing data is very probable, as it usually the one that takes long time to recover from (maybe never), another scenario the attacker encrypted all data and extorts money from the cloud service owner or infrastructure provider, another scenario is some legal dispute between the infrastructure provider and Asobimo, leading to them shutting down some servers, and many other time-consuming scenarios that could have played out. But most definitely is that this is not a simple server crash that can be resolved by a quick rebooting, because it took them so this much time and still got nothing for us.
    4. The drops event happened after everybody couldn't log in. It's unlikely that the amount of users went up that much before that event. Even though I will not rule it out. However, my 3rd point still stands.

    have a great day. (night for me)
     
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    Also i would like to point out that usually game servers only capped the number of player that can join a server at a time. Also capped the number of player can exist in a channel.

    That doesnt mean the server is always running heavily. The reason they do that is for the map to not get too crowded. Because your phone cant proccess all that information in an instant unlike server-grade computer.

    The fact that you have channels for each server means there is a lot of space left, even that 15+ channel is not using the entire server resources. Putting all your server resources to a single server channels is just stupid af.

    Just because bots fill the entire Int1, the server wont experience any issues. Dont blame the server for lagging, its just most phone cant handle it, with default setting for people turned on, and you go to sofia (a small map) ofc ur phone cant handle it.

    So you cant just burn a server by botting in Int1.

    UNLESS U CREATE BOTS THAT CAN FILL ALL THE SERVERS INCLUDING regional servers. Even then, they'll just allocated or add more resource and servers.
     
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    why stop at ricardo? get the whole gachimuchi memes
     
  16. Lucifere

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    Suzuki P tried to download hentai and thats what happened...
     
  17. SAM.

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    Someone probably just found an exploit off the recent patch and are abusing it. Heck, it could be the same person with a mass production off bots; and It could not be them as well. Hell even, perhaps bots are required to execute the formentioned exploit for all we know. Or they may not be.

    It could also just be a random server error non-affiliated by any third party. Who knows~
     
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    So i can say that there is a possibility that crash was made by a person/group whos the intension is to literally crash the game or what ever it is with the purpose of maybe revenge to someone or some thing or hacked it for money purposes?

    If thats the case, whoa!! that will be a long investigation indeed...
     
  19. Drago not Dragon

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    Play iruna and start begging there,since everything is freaking hard
     
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  20. WindSlash

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    Oh wow. so have you definite proof that JP server didnt go down AT ALL? between 1-2am JST? For all we know, the servers crashed, and 4hrs later, the earthquake happened. the JP servers might have been restored after the crash, but the other servers hasnt because of there was still connection issues due to there being too many users who logged out from Int servers trying to log back in. =.=
     
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