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Trigger Slash or Shadow Step? (AMPR)

Discussion in 'Dual Wield' started by -Kazuki-, Sep 16, 2017.

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More AMPR?

  1. Trigger Slash

    22.7%
  2. Shadow Step

    22.7%
  3. It's the same..

    54.5%
  1. Azin.

    Azin. Brawler Enthusiast Elite Member

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    spirit bangle gives 10 ampr for dw which is better and much cheaper..
     
  2. -Kazuki-

    -Kazuki- Well-Known Member

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    oh yeah i forgot, 10ampr. BUT it's still better to have 500mp and 10ampr than just the 10ampr itself, and misanga is also cheap! u need 1stk of dented iron plate, and it costs around 5k-20k in board!
     
  3. Azin.

    Azin. Brawler Enthusiast Elite Member

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    but slotted one is expensive u need ornament for dat.. which cost alot apparently and rare af to see a seller.. u dont need too much mp if u have enuf ampr..
     
  4. Lynxia

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    Wait until Speed/Muscle/Dex/Magic/Vit Talisman 4 comes out. That would be great
     
  5. Azin.

    Azin. Brawler Enthusiast Elite Member

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    u gotta wait for years xD
     
  6. Lynxia

    Lynxia Musketeer

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    Lol :D
     
  7. -Kazuki-

    -Kazuki- Well-Known Member

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    i didn't say u should use ornament to it xD this is just for low budget special gear, u can get Stamina/Speed/Muscle/Etc. III and put tapir which is way more cheaper than to buy ornament
     
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    eerie aint dat expensive anymore.. so a slotted s.t.bangle would be nice tho u need enuf mp
     
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    Yeah and i donno much bout guardian n rampage.
     
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    Is it posible to put tapir n eerie together or replace eerie with s roar?
     
  11. mayam

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    Eerie + tapir nope not possible
    Tapir + S.roar yep
     
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    How is it possible getting Odd numbers computing DW ampr? :confused:
     
  13. Lynxia

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    Stating @-Kazuki- pervious quote
    My setup :
    Wep : Dark Gen's Sword +C A7Cd13Cr1313 (Moonlight Potum (+3ampr))
    Sub : Dark Gen's Sword +E Stability+3% Dark Elem.
    Arm : S7Cd13Cr1313 (Roga)
    Add : Grecia's Mask (+200mp +6ampr) (+150mp )
    Spc : Misanga +500mp
    MaxMP : 1.280mp + 200mp (Magiadd II)

    Can you tell me how much AMPR do i have (with and w/out Shadow Step!) with this setup?

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    * 6 AMPR( Xtal on 1H sword)+12(Grecia Mask)+20(Dual Sword base crit)=38
    * 1280mp=12.8mp >>> For Dual that is 12.8x2= 25crit
    * 38 crit(From gear)+25(From mp)= 63.6 AMPR Total
     
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    Base 10
    Xtal 3
    Grecia 6
    MAX mp 1280 = 12
    Magi 2 (200mp) = 2
    Total ampr 33
    X2 66 ampr
    With ss lvl 10 = 86 ampr

    Not sure if they double the extra 80MP since the calculation is 100mp=1ampr
     
  15. Azin.

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    decimal doesnt count on ampr from mp.. so the 12.8 is just 12
    moonlight+3
    grecia+6
    base+10
    10+6+3= 19
    1280mp=12 ampr
    19+12=31*2(dw)=62+4ampr(2mp from magicadd) = 66ampr..
    with shadow or trigger it can have 86 ampr..
     
  16. Lynxia

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    that calculation was based without Magi 2. Since she has 1280 mp she will get 12.8x2= 25.6 AMPR from her MP. Duals AMPR are doubled
    For dual swords only there base is actually 20. For the rest of the classes their crit base is 10
     
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    pls read y i told u :)
    decimal from 1280 doesnt count when compmuting ampr.. 1280=12 1290=12 1299=12 wont be counted unless the whole 100mp is there...
     
  18. Lynxia

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    That calcutation was based without Magicadd potion, let me repost my post -_-


    If that was true then the computer the would show our mp as 1200 rather then 1280. Im sure the computer calculates all numbers, but there it no way of knowing that unless we are able to see the computer's concrete data
     
  19. BK

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    Ampr from mp doesnt increase by an extra 1 if u have like 1266 or anything that isnt a whole number, wasting all mp and being at 0 and autoing 50x wouldnt make me regain 1130mp, i only regained a whole amount being 1100
     
  20. Lynxia

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    If that was true then from full mp i would of had lost a full mp bar after using a 1mp skill, but instead after using the 1mp skill i had 1/3 of the same MP bar left which mean the computer still calculates the full amount. Check out the video :)

     

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