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Weapon Stating atk7cd7cr18cr18% vs atk7cd18cr18cr18%

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Leviathan, Mar 21, 2019.

  1. Leviathan

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    So I was wondering, which stats is better for weapon.
    1) attack 7%, crit dmg 7% crit rate +18,+18%
    Or
    2) atk7%, crit dmg+18, crit rate +18,+18%
    Or
    3) full crit 18
    Or is there some better variant that I missed?
     
  2. Barzeft

    Barzeft It is better to be silent instead of hurtful Elite Member

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    Depends on class and stat setup since not all classes benefit the same way.
     
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    Atk7% Str7% CD7% is best
     
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    If you have to compromise between CD7% and CD18, CD18 would give you an additional 4-8% more crit damage depending on your STR stat.

    For every 5 STR stat, you get 1% crit damage.

    If you have 255 STR, CD18 gives you 4% more crit damage than CD7%

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    At level 1:
    Critical Rate = 25%
    Critical Damage = 150%

    CD1 will add 1% to your Critical Damage of 150%
    So if I equip an armor with CD10:

    Critical Rate = 25%
    Critical Damage = 160%

    CD1% will add 1% of your previous Critical Damage modifier to itself

    So if I equip CD7% armor:

    Critical Rate = 25%
    Critical Damage = 150 + 0.07 * 150 = 150 + 10 = 160% (Decimal values will be rounded down)

    What if we have 255 Str?

    Critical Rate = 25%
    Critical Damage = 150 + 255/5 = 150 + 51 = 201

    Now, if we equip armor with CD18:
    Critical Rate = 25%
    Critical Damage = 201+18 = 219%

    If we equip armor with CD7%:
    Critical Rate = 25%
    Critical Damage = 201 + 0.07*201 = 201 + 14 = 215%

    So CD18 > CD7%

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    Atk 7% > CD7%?

    Yes.

    Suppose your ATK is 100
    With ATK 7%, it becomes 107
    When you crit, your damage is 107 * 1.5 = 160

    With CD7%,
    When you crit your damage is 100 * 1.6 = 160

    Suppose your ATK is 1000
    With ATK7%, it becomes 1070
    When you crit, your damage is 1070*1.5 = 1605

    With CD7%
    When you crit your damage is 1000*1.6=1600

    So ATK7%>CD18>CD7%
     
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  5. Dot

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    I hope this is a meme
    A7cdcrcr18 wins hands down in almost all situations.
     
  6. BlueLtng

    BlueLtng Well-Known Member

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    Most of 2h on board are A7S7CD7%
    With a decent Crit Equip, A7S7CD7 is the best choice.
     
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    With decent crit equips a7cd7cd18 is the best choice*
     
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    Is a7cd7cd18 possible? If so yes, it would be the best. I didnt see one yet. But I haven't been playing for a long time.
     
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    777 needs 60 pot for being 100% while acdcd7718 only needs 50-ish pot for 100% (forgot exact, either 51 or 54). That is much better and as @Barzeft said, it is mainly class dependant. For a bow acdcrcr will profit most of the time, while for a HB acdcd will be the best. So, without being ambiguous it's better to specify the weapon you're inquiring about. Also, the stats for maximum output mainly depends on your build and what you want to achieve with them, so that's another thing
     
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  10. Barzeft

    Barzeft It is better to be silent instead of hurtful Elite Member

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    What @Demonwar mentioned is exactly my point. The question is too vague since thread poster didn't mention weapon, character stat setup or skills used and if we don't know what they're using we can't really help much. Full crit is better if you lack crit stat but have a cdmg setup, a7cd18crcr18 is better for classes like bow, a7cd7cd18 and ascd7 are better for 2H because they don't lack crit usually.
     
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