what’s your biggest pet peeve with knucks?& what do you think could fix them?

everyone knows the class is actually super disadvantaged, low damage unless you use tonfas, short ranged, nearly all bosses hate your smash/sonic wave/bash, even possibly chariot **cough cough hero potum**
mine are:
-it gets really annoying sometimes with people not wanting anything other than tanks.
-being mocked if you’re a non tonfa dps, it’s really disheartening when they say you’re wasting your time if you don’t get a rare weapon. its like the rng isn’t in my favor !!
-being kicked out of parties since you let down someone’s automatic expectation that you’re a tank when you never said you were
-only being wanted for fb and tanking &them being upset when you said you weren’t a tank from beforehand
-being told to fb a boss that will react &kill all if you do try
-having to run away so often not to be hit by 10927482738227382 rays
-bosses buffing their guard when you f/t/s & your damage just being lower cause of it
-(tfw toram mentions in the description that knuckles have low damage but high aspd) having high aspd but not the damage to make up for it. everyone can max out their aspd so our aspd is basically nothing special
-how does someone with less agi do higher chariot dmg than knucks with max+extra agi

 

I agree knuckles should have 1 MP skills that have no disable effects and they do, it's just that you'd have to go through the buff skill trees to get them.
1) Holy Fist (Priest)
2) Spike Dart (Dagger)
3) Magic Arrows (Magic)
4) God Speed Wield (Halberd)
5) Perfect Defence (Shield)
6) Bloody Bite (Dark Power)

Just get the appropriate 1mp starter skill and build your combo from there and with more skills coming for either December or Next year, Knucks will have an opportunity to shine in areas that's not just tanking for FB parties.

Knucks can get 2k ASPD pretty easy but it is really annoying when said ASPD does nothing to help damage. I think there should have been an ASPD conversion passive somewhere along the knuckle skills...

 

ahaha yeah those are good. bloodybite is more of something i’d use on the side cause it takes a second or two to even activate. but holy fist and spike dart are okay, i use those whenever i can’t interrupt a boss ^^
i just wish that i would be able to use smash or sonic wave without worrying though, i can do 12k with those easily but holy fist maybe 6k. thanks for input!

 

They went too far when calling you 'tank' even when you did not use a shield.

 

i have the gardien app and those don’t even go on my character’s back. i use daggers so there’s no way to assume that i’m a tank but they still do

 

All of these made playing as a brawler really fun. ^_^

 

If i've learned anything about the non-capped community. They'll almost always assume that someone using a 1h weapon is a tank. Until they've been consistently destroyed in DPS by a DPS Knuckle player.

Also, as great as Tonfa and Eagles are, you can still get some pretty nice damage values through elemental and standard crit Knuckles.

 

right now the criticism is what keeps me going.(sometimes not so much, it depends)
i want to be a strong non tonfa player and i feel like im doing okay but yeah, it is a bit fun.. it’s only when things are only becoming more and more against you and other close combaters and more in favor for ranged units. the ranged combat players i’ve seen are becoming more stuck up, normally and having higher expectations without thinking too much of how hard it can be on CC. but i love my aspd and my atk so far, i think my damage is good as of right now and im not gonna stop .

 

wahaha, mine aren’t crit but i might change it to that next time, i was trying to save money and i hadnt even known stat7atk7cc16 weapons existed, plus that would’ve made me broke. im at 1736-1803 attack at the moment depending on which hat i’m wearing and do fine if my combos work in my favor.
i’ve seen a couple of dps knuckles lately and it’s super nice cause i remember when i’d came to the game, but it’s hard to break it all to them.. and boy i wish i’d known when i downloaded.. ahahaha
regardless, im proud to be a knuck. nothing’s stopping me !

 

If they changed knuckles stat growth and/or if they had a physical pierce passive then they'd be good. Probably around 1h dps at best though

 

as long as we aren’t the lowest, i think that’s all we really want. not even to be better than another class but just to be equal with someone so everyone’s got some chance

 

Lol ur not the lowest right now.... Ur tied with dw for worst dps

 

well then it’s both being the lowest. either way dw is going to get their t4 skills and there’s a chance we will be the lowest afterwards and it could put down a class with a lot of potential even more.

 

I agree, ASPD should translate to an atk boost as well...or stop making bosses so fts-reactive because all our skills are about interrupting Knucks are the most fun for solo-ing though, so there's that.

 

I've personally moved on from Pure knucks to Fu hybrids.

I'm not including Staff Fu in my build list though, those are just... ugh... boring...

1H Fu hybrids are actually quite powerful and are comparable or even stronger than some THS, CF and Tenryu builds (at least in my experience), but require high motion speed. GSW can be used, and it's possible to make a build around sneak(Dragon Tooth vs Chariot Spam). With chariot having a 12m range, it proved extremely useful against anti-melee bosses.

Currently testing 255 str, 100 agi, ~70 dex vs 200 str, 200 agi, ~40 dex to see if a 10% motion speed difference and boost to Chariot's damage would make up for the ~300-500 less atk. Huge difference between +20% and +30% motion speed. Big blow to my stability though, especially with Berserk as a speed buff.

If anyone knows how to calculate the damage scaling of Chariot with Agi, do tell, it'd be greatly appreciated.

Even if it doesn't take the top attacker rank, its utility proves useful (Tumble, Flinch, Stun, Fear). Regretless is a good add on if you are forced to tank, which should last you about 4-5 minutes before you die because of the timer.

 

Nah, reactive bosses aren't scary. And Knuckles is the best to deal with them!

Just use: Smash > P. Def (Cons)

You can freely flinch and prepare for any counterattack from the boss!
It is also a surefire way that you'll also win attacker!

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LMAO that's an instant kick

 

Not if you're the party leader.

 

Having a physical pierce would be a godsend. Shell Break is so unreliable if you're going for the armor break effect from close up....

 

i think the fts resistance lowering would help us out a ton, at least a “don’t fts past HP>50%” like ifrid. at least we could use smash and so ^^. and yeah they are, i enjoy kicking and punching bosses a ton until they die ahaha