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What Effects on Secondary Weapons Function?

Discussion in 'Toram Online Game Guides' started by Mugami, Jan 9, 2016.

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  1. Red_Fox

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    using MD as sub weapon removes the damage penalty on Power Wave for non-magical weapons.
    since MD subs are only used when activating magic skills, they will work with Power Wave too.
    and since Power Wave is a weapon attack, not a skill, the MDs attack modifiers will apply. (which they normally don't)

    so, when you have Power Wave, you weapon attack will become "magical" and it will use the MD sub to calculate damage, just like when using magic skills.
    attack modifiers like stability or crit don't activate on skills, but on normal attacks. but not on sub weapon MDs, since your main weapon is used for attacks.
    Power Wave makes you use your sub MD for attacks, so it's attack modifiers apply.
    your attack stat is still calculated from your main weapon, but your Power Wave attack will use the MD stats.

    Edit: this is outdated! MD stats never work on sub weapon, even with Power Wave.
    more details about MD sub can be found in my magic swordsman guide.
     
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    Okay that makes sense. Thank you so much.
     
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    Which better survivability, 1h knuck
    Or pure knuck
     
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    DEF is raised with VIT, MDEF with INT.
    there is no "pure knuckles" unless you leave your sub weapon slot empty, which is a very bad idea.
    shields have the most survivability.
     
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    Srry,wrong word I meant knuckle with full agi
    ^_^"
     
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    @Mugami
    I'm asking just to make it sure. If i use xbow/knuckles combo, stats on knuckles have no effect except for atk/atk%, m.atk/m.atk%, and stability%.
    Am I correct?

    EDIT: I think your guide needs an update. I tested xbow/knuckles combo and the result is ATK% from knuckles doesn't work. I think ATK and STABILITY won't work as well.
     
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    Are its useless to refine my knuckle as secondary weapon ? when i use staff as my main weapon
     
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    Not useless if you use martial art skills. Still worth it in my opinion.

    EDIT: It's useless to refine your knuckles or put xtal on it though.

    @Mugami arrow's sub-stats now works with other main weapons. Def/mdef penalties still exists tough. Not sure about main stats (atk, stability)
     
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    I have a question:
    How about 1H/1H ???
    -Substats
    -damage of sub 1H
    Sr about my English
     
  11. Mugami

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    It's a waste
     
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    @Mugami arrow's sub-stats now works with other main weapons. Def/mdef penalties still exists tough. Not sure about main stats (atk, stability)[/QUOTE]
    I will check into this soon. Thx for the info.
     
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    hi, @Mugami i heard that knuckle mastery and martial discepline dont work as secondary weapon so its a waste to learn.. is this true?
     
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    For a secondary weapon? Yes it's a waste to learn such skills for any secondary weapon.
     
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    how about power wave?
    does magic mastery affect the extra atk from MD subs when using power wave?
     
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    Weapon Mastery skills only work for primary weapon's slot.
     
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    I'm new member here, i want to ask what is best combination(Main+secondary), that can craft by player BS,, to get the secondary weapon status...
    #sorry bad english...
     
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    For sub weapons, stats do not apply unless you are a dual weild. Shield, dagger and arrow stats apply but they are not player crafted. So if you are looking at strictly player crafted, it will be elemental 1h swords where the attack and element will apply, once they fix it. Currently, the element is not applied, but it will be fixed.
     
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    I Have a question not about secondary weapons but about primary weapons using skills not of there own Like MD with Marital skills is there a damage reduction draw back of some type.
     
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    You will not get the bonus, but no penalty.

    So your triple kick for example, will not receive an increased crit rate and damage boost with an MD, but that's same as using Tripke kick with any equipment other than knuckles.
     
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