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What's the dagger with the highest evasion?

Discussion in 'Brawler' started by Krisu, Sep 24, 2018.

  1. Krisu

    Krisu Well-Known Member

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    Im gonna restart my knuck because it does not have enough ampr to keep pdefing all the time and still do damage. I might take dark energy to heal, but im wondering if it'll work or if i should just continue shield knuck.
     
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    lightweight knife has 15%
    i don't know any that's higher
     
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    Lil empress Dagger has 15% as well, but +10 crit rate at the cost of some water resist
     
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    LIL empress dagger so far is the best with +15 evasion and +10 Critical, it's also come with 100+ Attack which is better than antique dagger.

    Learn manual dodge, Pdef is to against huge AOE skill and when you get lock by boss, LVL10 PDef only give 10% of MaxHP/ <2000, which mean you need to have 20k hp to get 2000 healing, Blood Bite for sure is better healing but Pdef received 0 damages. So i would suggest you still go for Pdef if you still want to be KnucShield.

    Evasion is good only when you take the tank position, else it's didn't have much contribution in a team battle.
     
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    IF you're gonna restart your knuck. Might as well just do MD knuck and get a magic warrior book.

    Do you have a Lvl 150 Char?
     
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    I'm making a rush knuck, im not sure if md sub would be good for it. Anyway if you go md sub, wouldn't it be better to go staff fu? I haven't picked any sub skills yet
     
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    bloodytolits Hiatus. Playing Ragnarok M Elite Member

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    MD sub Magic Blade tree.

    You'll only really need 3 skills on the tree:

    Mastery skill so Atk reduction is reduced to -5% instead of -15%.

    Resonance for quick MP healing and awesome buffs(Random between these three: Atk/Matk, ASPD/CSPD, Hit/Crit).

    Ether Flare for the juicy +30 AMPR, it's magic prorate to boot so you can probably make self prorating combos.


    You can now use Maximizer too as a bonus.
     
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    Md knuck gets the bonus of using resonance -> 1 or 2 extra blasts AND buffs. = more DPS You also get the bonus of multipliers


    If you're adamant about using a shield knuck, I highly suggest decoy shot. Also have a 1mp quick shell break combo.
     
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    Krisu Well-Known Member

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    I don't think I'll use shield, because I can survive well enough on my own but I die because boss battles last too long for me to survive.
     
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    My brain just hurt reading that.

    You won't use shield... because you survive... But Die because you can't survive? XD

    I'll tell you this, Evasion is unreliable. I would never stack it as a form of defense. Pdef is king, as is short bursting combos.

    If ampr is the problem, the only solution any non md knuck has is decoy shot (which also gives you 15% quick draw). Shell break is RNG, and if you have a sniper on your team, you probably won't be regenerating any MP. Chakra is just a trash skill if you're not a long range knuck or have aggro.


    I have all 4 types of knucks. Dagger knuck has bad AMPR too, even with the mail breaker bonus, it's not reliable enough. I'm capping it off, so I can say I have a gatling knife knucker. Right now, it does 55k Tkicks and 75k Rushes (Per hit). Decoy shot gives me a bit of ampr back... but with mobile targets, it's annoying.
     
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    Yeah, my ampr is low so i can't pdef when I really need to and still do decent dps. Take for example tyrant machina. When I was mqing i literally could not beat it because it outhealed my dps sadly. My avg dmg with rush is a measly 80k-160k total, thats with 150% smite. I would use 1mp combos but tyrant is pretty fast.

    Basically, I die because fights take too long and then I make a mistake or something.

    I kind of wish rush was like rampage.
     
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    what i wish they did was separate the chakra buff into two of them. 1 for the damage and 1 for ampr.

    keep ampr on for 30 sec but damage buff is on for one hit.
     
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    some dagger knuck damage with tonfas.

    still got my battle passives to max for another 60atk.
     

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