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Why there are no Tanks oO

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Ninchen, Feb 9, 2016.

  1. Zenki

    Zenki ゼンキー Elite Member

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    I dnt need a tank 99% of the time, so I'd prefer bks tank, he can just stand around:rolleyes:
     
  2. firefox1981

    firefox1981 Elite Member Elite Member

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    Lol bk I won't kiss your ass as I know it's cute xD but yeah plsystyles are up to the personnel choice ppl will always try to demoralize builds just let those ppl keep that great big stick up there asses and keep up the good work lol
     
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    Lol darn wasn't the response I was hoping for BK lol
     
  4. kelden13

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    If u cant hold roga in place long enough for mages to storm effectively, and survive doing so, then yah really arent a tank.... having ur leech draw aggro and then running in a circle certainly isnt tanking, and also I would love to see you get to 11k hp without putting any points in vit
     
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  5. Ashavir

    Ashavir Well-Known Member

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    Then you want mine, I can contribute to anything and everything. Break/Atk/Tank/Support.
    Can't Tank multiple Mini bosses though. I can however kill individual ones on my own with much effort. (Still trying to figure out the cheating scum Cassy.)
     
  6. Deuteragonist

    Deuteragonist Well-Known Member

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    It's certainly not impossible. If I wanted to, theoretically, I could probably get a vit-less tank to 11k with all the buffs that exist. Like that new 2h sword, %hp armor, vita plus, shield buffs and xtals, etc. It's not impossible, just impractical.
     
  7. BK

    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    It cant be done, with all that ur looking at 6.5k, since u have no vit the hp% would hardly add anything

     
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  8. chalkie-kun

    chalkie-kun Well-Known Member

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    Where did you get that info? From your butt? I wear a full crit gear
    WarHelm/Crit+2
    Heavy Knife
    Jamadhar/Crit+2
    Killer Coat/Crit+2
    Spd Talisman II/Eerie
    Now tell me which one gives any HP boost there.
    I'm guessing you pulled your data from Mugami's stat chart, which was based off on a Lv30 character.

    Make a new character now and put all the emblem points to Vit. It will give way less than 10HP per point.
     
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  9. kelden13

    kelden13 Well-Known Member

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    .... by the time ur able to hit 11k though, bosses will be doing wayyyyy more than that
     
  10. kelden13

    kelden13 Well-Known Member

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    ...... Hp gear based off of.... hp percent..... and therefore ur scaling will be wayyyyyy behind the curve of wat a tank needs... as we get further on in the game, all tanks without vit will be left in the dust survivability-wise
     
  11. Precaria

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    Just out of curiosity Koko, I see you dislike VIT so I wanted to ask what stat will you max after level 95 when your LCK is capped?
     
  12. kelden13

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    And again, if u can tank 4 gs at a time without them looking at anyone else in ur pt for a second, and without using revs or wasting mp casting heal spells, feel free to tell me I am wrong, until then, its a priest with provoke
     
  13. NUT2Fast

    NUT2Fast @Ameilla ‘s Husband Elite Member

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    I think mages are the best class and tanks .
     
  14. Precaria

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    Well dex should be good if what you want is to hit too, but considering the low hp, luck + agility is the way to go because this mix really sums up to your evading chances better than luck with dex. :)
     
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    @KokoBot. @kelden13
    Guys, let us go back to the basic role of a Tank. What does a Tank do and what role does it fill in a party?
    • Attract attention of mobs and bosses, by creating lots of aggro
    • Survive and hold the mobs and bosses attention as long as possible
    • For Guard Tank: Taking hits and sponging the damage (Guard). It can mitigate damages taken via the use of Def and Buffs
    • For Dodge/Evasion Tank: Dodge/Evade to avoid taking damage as much as possible
    A Tank's build can come in various forms, as long as the first 2 primary objectives/roles above are met.
    Examples:
    • It can be a Priest with high Guard Rate, using heals and buffs to sustain it's survivability.
    • It can also be a 1H+Shield with high Vit, high Def, high hp regen, using Mini Heal and buffs to sponge the damages taken.
    • It can also be a 1H+ Shield with low or mid-level hp, high dodge and/or evasion, high hp regen + mp regen capabilities and using Mini Heal and/or Bless
    So, can one say a Tank cannot use Healing skills and Revs?
     
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  16. Neo Frame

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    @BK
    With that much HP, u have fighter's high? Coz I bet u regenerated like 50-70 HP each second.
    I'm curious.
     
  17. kariin

    kariin Patience is a Virtue Staff Member MODERATOR Super Likable Elite Member Wiki Contributor Epic Member

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    Reminder for everyone to stay on topic. In case you forgot, this thread is about tanks, if you are not about talking them, please create another thread. Thank you! Have a nice day or night :)
     
  18. BK

    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    Im not sure if i have o_O, but if i havnt id definitely be adding it when cap increases
     
  19. Alleura

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    Even, there is a tank.
    DPS should know what a minimal HP they should have on certain boss, I believed.
    At least, can survive from one boss normal hit. Dead = 0DPS = useless DPS in my PoV.
    Vita plus play well with this role.
    --Just saying

    Too lazy to read all post tho :p
     
  20. Red_Fox

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    @saiyatan -> chalkie-kun said that, not me.
    don't fake quote my posts.

    i said this:
    "Gloria is a priest skill that raises DEF, MDEF and Guard Rate based on the characters base stats.
    meaning: Gloria gives a great defense boost on characters that have a good defense to begin with,
    and it has very little effect on characters that have low defense.

    the shield skills Protection and Aegis reduce damage taken, so they are independant of your own def stats, but as compensation, they lower the other defenses on equal value.
    Lv10 Protection grants -50% physical damage and +50% magic damage.
    casting both skills will have no effect, since they cancel each other out.
    Gloria reduces damage for both types without drawbacks, but it does not reduce damage directly, but increases your defense stats.
    so you need some VIT and INT to gain more defense to increase Gloria's effect."
     

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