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*NEO Dual Sword Build High ASPD*

Discussion in 'Dual Wield' started by Lynxia, Oct 19, 2017.

  1. Lynxia

    Lynxia Musketeer

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    That would makes sense then. i took another look at your video, and having 700 m.def with such little reduction in damage seems ridiculous on behalf of Asobimo's part cuase as new Armor and Helmets comes out people def will be waaaayy pass 250. This is just me but i feel they may change that def 250 limit later in the game
    Thats just my opinion though cuase as you have noticed newer Helmets and Armor are having more and more def as they come out. By the time people get to lvl 200 thier def would already be at or close to 250, then at lvl 320 even higher.
     
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    What if... The final skills in the Guard skill tree modified the Function for Def and Mdef? Makes the initial limit of Def/Mdef higher than before, and such? I mean, it can't be more Guard and Evade, we already got two duplicate skills for that.
     
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    You guys be going over and beyond to prove a point lol
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Ok I can watch now
    It is stability I am 100% sure now
    The two magic attacks did more damage and the one physical attack did less damage lol
    1340 to 1197 it is still within the range.

    Thats what I have been doing for almost 1 year now.
    Welcome to the forums this no life nerd is glad to meet you.
     
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    Mdbanime Well-Known Member

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    I'm still waiting on the reply for the explanation behind the neutral resistance and physical and magical for York and jiangshi lol
     
  6. Lynxia

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    LOL Mayam your respond to Mdbanime is funny xD
     
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    It's in Mayam's data dump for survival.
    http://toramonline.com/index.php?th...beefy-today-chickeny-guide-to-defences.22518/
    Resistance flat out reduces damage by the % it gives, without formula stuff.

    i.e. 10% resistance
    100 damage * (100% - 10% [your resistance]) = 90 damage taken
    Defense / Mdef is different, and has a complicated formula for it, in which more than 250 is too much effort for too little damage reduction.
     
  8. Lynxia

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    Sounds good. If Asobimo do that im definately getting the Guard Skill Tree.
     
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    Mdbanime Well-Known Member

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    Formulas combos all this stuff makes me dizzy"dramatically falls on the floor" I was spoiled by irunas simple easy life
     
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    I know what you mean. Wish they would do like was most games do and show the the character's full build aspect. Asobimo isn't showing everything which leaves it to the people to figure out the rest of the things that can't be seen from character's stat page.
     
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    It's more fun this way~
    Solving the mysteries on how to be awesome is cool.
    Every time I pass through another skill gate, it feels so epic.

    ...far cry from Astute x 3 > Mp Charge > Repeat
     
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    Speaking of that any idea what's a good combo for charging slash smite I have 0 skills in any other active tree besides duel wield lol so twin spin parry charge flash shadow step all i got but i got 8 sp current lol 108 135 str 125 agi is 10 dex
     
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    neutral resistance is the reduction of dmg from neutral attacks inflicted by the enemy.. physical/magical attack resistance on reduction of dmg from physical/magic attacks inflicted by the enemy
     
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    heres one..
    spin>flashblast(save)>reflex(cons)>shadowstep(cons)>charging (smite)>twin(cons)..
    sticking on dw skill tree aint a good choice tbh..
     
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    Imma move it around once I decide best skills will work best with me I'm still in the infant phase lol
     
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    been there too.. and made my dw myself and now i have 4 diff dps skill option in my build depending on boss and party mates.and thats what u called flexibility :)
     
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    I hope next tier for guard tree be like invulnerability against flinch/stun/tumble in a form or a barrier or % for the heavy and it might be a dodge for light remodel
     
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    I'll get there eventually I just didn't like how I was completely useless at boss ik I'm the weak link but my damage from just auto and stuff was horrible
     
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    Im all for it x)
     
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    Thats weird, even though i get hit from Tapir Magic attacks andbl both of York's physical and Magic hits, the 10% Neutral Resistance i get from York's Pendant still takes off damage from those hits

    I tried helmets with no resistence stat and the damage i recieved from different hits was 20%-25% more.
    So what can be classified as Neutral if that 10% Neutral Resistence on york's Pendant still deducts from both physical and Magic attacks?
     

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