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Ask me anything about warrior :)

Discussion in 'Warrior' started by Impact, Jul 30, 2016.

  1. Impact

    Impact Well-Known Member

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    The first combo u linked, only 1 skill are doing decent damage out of 7 skills. If 1 skill take about 1sec, u wasting 6 sec just to make a decent skill out of that combo.

    The normal save tag combo u mentioned, could it be save tag on skill slot 2 in the combo? If it is, then depending on what skills they are using. it depends. nothing good nothing bad.


    -[Would it be better to use Sanctuary or sneak(save) instead of impact so we can push tempest to 110 or 130%(I understand this will make the combo very long.-]-

    Both the skills have long animation. Any bosses that do aoe-instant-kill will get you first. Any boss that flinch alot will get u first. And not to forget in order to push tempest to that % you have to make your combo pretty long. which is bad and the damage might not come out most of the time since u got flinched or tumbled before u can do so.

    -[Astute-hard hit(cons)-trigger (cons)-sneak (save)-any skill (cons)-tempest (smite )-impact (cons)]-

    Look not bad. Astute to ts, will do good damage. Sneak is swifted due to ts and tempest can do 110% damage. Impact as ender simply make the next cast 100mp only.

    Not drowning your hope, this combo is only utilized if the boss do not flinch much or dont aoe-instant-death-tech on you.

    If i were you, first i will have 2 combo. short and long. short one we leave it aside since we talk about long one.

    For long combo. max is 6 skill. (5.5 seconds of combo) . DPS will be alright. It been proven motion > long combo. I know your concern is 3 thing,

    1mp combo, good damage, good tempest. If so, then dont bother with astute been on the 1st few skills.

    Trigger slash(lvl6above) - sneak/sanctuary (save) - astute(conse) - spiral air (conse) - tempest smite - impact conse.

    6 skill, better motion. Smited tempest do big damage and for sure it do critical. You can switch spiral to anything else that have faster motion.


    but dont expect this combo to outdps a 200mp full consecutive combo... lol.
     
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  2. Toramwasmyidea

    Toramwasmyidea im probably high right now Elite Member

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    I see my main goal is decent dps for cheap cost without aggro , and it seemed a good combo
     
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    Toramwasmyidea im probably high right now Elite Member

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    Thanx this is very indepth explanation, and you clarify alot for me .
    Maybe ill further elaborate my point of view of about it-
    ●Im gona use sneak lvl10 because i understand how to use it unlike many people( i know many feel warrior should be able to semi tank, bt i dislike carrying pots) so semi long combos is not reli a problem for me unless boss has super wide aoes like yelb.
    ●Getting attack rank is not really my goal because my equips are mediocre so ill never compete with 1hfus/2hs with good gears :,).
    ● im cheap mp mentality, i dont like mp charging even on my mage so rather use 1mp combos and thats why i try to think of 1mp combo with most damage possible, and also logicaly safe enough not to die alot.
    Thanx again impact this helps me alot :)
     
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  4. Honeybunch

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    Just as the thread's description by Impact says...
    Hi guys. I recently got my main char at current Lv. cap (thanks to those NC sellers in-game) and would like some advice.
    But before I ask questions, I'll share what I have to help you give your inputs...
    My gears are:
    • 1st Anniv Greatsword III +C (C.DMG +7%, C.DMG +10, C.Rate +10, C.Rate +10%)
    • Killer Coat +C (same stats as my weapon)
    • Forehead Protector (w/ 1.5k HP, no refine yet)
    • Mistletoe Talisman (for resistances 'cause I've read that they help a lot in damage taken reduction)
      All gears have MP +150 Crystals
      Iroh's 2H Guide inspired me to get the gears
    My skill trees:
    • Hard Hit Lv. 5
      Astute Lv. 10
      Sonic Blade Lv. 5
      Trigger Slash Lv. 10
      Spiral Air Lv. 10
      Sword Tempest Lv. 10
      Sword Mastery Lv. 5
      Quick Slash Lv. 5
      Sword Techniques Lv. 10
    • MP Charge Lv. 10 (Somehow I feel like I shouldn't have learned this lol)
    • Drop Rate UP Lv. 10
      Safe Rest Lv. 5
      HP Boost Lv. 10
      Short Rest Lv. 5
      MP Boost Lv. 10
      Sober Analysis Lv. 1 (I've read that this skill gives a fixed +3 AMPR but later on read that it doesn't so I'm confused)
    • Assault Attack Lv. 1
    My stats: STR 255 and can't decide yet on 2nd stat to focus on, but I'm thinking of having VIT
    My combos:
    My first combo sets before at my below Lv. 70s was...
    Astute | Hard Hit | Sonic Blade | Spiral Air | Sword Tempest | Trigger Slash [2 MP, All Consecutive]
    Assault Attack | Astute | Sonic Blade | Trigger Slash | Sword Tempest [2 MP, All Consecutive]​
    I made a 2nd combo set for non-control-impairing skills. And I kinda like the animation of Assault Attack so I often use it after my 1st combo set for faster skill animation from Trigger Slash. XD
    But the combos were long that it hurts when my timing against bosses sometimes go wrong so I've browsed the forums for short combos. Someone posted a thread looking for help in 2H and I saw Squid's combo so I tried it out, and I also tried to shorten my 2nd combo set...
    Astute | Spiral Air(Save) | Sword Tempest(Smite) | Trigger Slash(Consecutive) [3 MP?, the ender Squid shared was Hard Hit, but I replaced it w/ Trigger Slash]
    Assault Attack | Hard Hit | Astute | Sword Tempest [2 MP, All Consecutive]​
    Now for my concerns...
    What skills should I max out & shouldn't have learned?
    Are there better-short combos that would cost 2 MP? I'd like 2 sets; one w/ control-impairing effects & one w/out, unless having 2 sets is unnecessary.
    Thanks a lot in advance. : )

    EDIT:
    I went back to just 2 MP All-Consecutive combo, but I used only 5 skills.
    And as I'm continuing to hunt bosses, I don't feel like focusing on just pure damage anymore. I'll go on balanced damage & survivability, since when on a party there's already pure damagers out there. I've seen someone's playstyle on this forum that's similar or kinda close to what I'm thinking, so I'll try to ask him for guidance.
    And I guess I'll just keep on looking/reading, this thread went silent all of a sudden. So yeah, I dumped my long details in a spoiler.
    I have an idea why, they'll just say "GEY". XD
     
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  5. Impact

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    Hi. Sorry i don't really check on forum nowadays. I did wanted to reply earlier but your question and your current gears really make me had to think more.

    First of all, the concern you have.

    1)What skills should I max out & shouldn't have learned?

    Drop rate 10/10? (for??? you can always use another mage to have this passive..)
    Sober 1/10 ? (it got patched and became a useless passive)
    MP charge 10/10 (1/10 is more than enough. You cant recharge mp faster than a staff-user no matter how)

    I have 1 long combo that cost 200mp and a 100mp short combo. But whenever i did normal attacks, it's never the issue of needing to replenish my mp. I had to normal attack because i am tanking and using any combo will just make bosses destroy me. And the short combo is for me to use some skills to hold onto the aggro and control the bosses.

    It is truly questionable to me whether quick draw and trigger slash are benefiting me in boss's fight since you are not going to spam non stop till the ultimate level boss drop dead, you have to tactical in your approach and quick draw doesn't do anything to improve that.

    Quick draw is a passive that is like telling/motivate you to keep spamming(which work 20% most of the time). And trigger slash have 2 function. 1 that improve ampr, another is to improve the next skill motion speed. I honestly feel the motion speed is much more important but you can choose what u want.

    We are talking about ultimate level bosses. Anyone can easily kill hard mode or below difficulties alone. So next question would be...

    2) My gears are:
    1st Anniv Greatsword III +C (C.DMG +7%, C.DMG +10, C.Rate +10, C.Rate +10%)
    Killer Coat +C (same stats as my weapon)
    Forehead Protector (w/ 1.5k HP, no refine yet)
    Mistletoe Talisman (for resistances 'cause I've read that they help a lot in damage taken reduction)
    All gears have MP +150 Crystals
    Iroh's 2H Guide inspired me to get the gears


    You have good critical rate. about 3.6k hp. But i find that 150mp for all these gears very wasteful. Let take a look at another way, are you a tank? Sometimes u got aggro and you got no choice but to play it safe.

    But ultimately you're not a tank. All you should make sure is that, bosses dont one-hit-KO you. Be it you have those resistance or not, with that hp.. you're still a one-hit target to most ultimate level bosses. So i recommend you switch that special gear to misanga (500mp already without slot) so you can change the other 3 xtal to something else. You have to maximise the little spec so that you can feel your character is doing better. I do find that your attack is low. Perhaps around 1300-1450. That something you might wanna consider improving.

    3) Are there better-short combos that would cost 2 MP? I'd like 2 sets; one w/ control-impairing effects & one w/out, unless having 2 sets is unnecessary

    There no better combo for 2mp. Either it's long combo that consist 5-10 skills or it can be as short as astute hh trigger slash. You can choose whichever combo you want. All 2mp combo deal about the same dmg +/- to me. Dont be stuck on only thinking astute MUST be the 1st skill. You want a special playstyle so you cannot be this mainstream . You either balance out all the skill damage output using full consecutive or you use save tag and make only 1-2 skills that are doing actual good damage.

    If you want to know which skill that can impair bosses? It will be spiral air hard hit impact. So as long as you got all 3 on your combo.. it will be a combo that impair bosses. And remove these 3 will give u a non-impair combo. I dont have just 2 set of combo.. i change my combo every single time against different bosses. I only categorise them as long or short combo, high mp or low mp combo. Try to be flexible. Dont allow limitation.

    Astute - impact save - tempest smite - spiral save .. 200mp combo is not bad. short and sweet. My normal combo is only Hardhit - spiral air save - triple kick smite - astute consecutive. I use this almost 99% of the time because it's fast motion and i can get out of those deadly aoe before it lands on me - not to forget it only cost 100mp. Tempest is just too slow and in order to use it effectively, you need long combo to set it up. If top attacker bar is what you want then just smite and conse your combo until it reach 800 mp usage per combo.

    4) Secondary stats. Honestly, your intention already told you your preferred direction. It will be Vit for you. You will probably gain 800 more hp from it. I went Dex. Because 800 more HP is not going to make me be able to tank a 7k aoe no matter how. so i still think i rather put into dex and gain a little attack power. But if i were you, i will leave those stats point aside till lvl 120(thats when some new skill might come out and you might wanna consider using stats to build a new playstyle)
     
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    Hi Impact. It's alright, I knew most people don't get on much here.
    For #1: I took the drop rate skill when I first played here, 'cause I have no idea back then that you should start w/ a mage as what some said to farm for items. And the MP charge for "oh I'd like to regain MP chunks fast", I didn't research so yeah my mistake. Until I get a chance on reset skills, I won't be able to get rid of them yet.
    #2: I used those MP crystals temporarily, since I referred to Iroh's. But yep I'll replace them as soon as I get some from hunting down bosses.
    Thank you for your misanga recommendation, I'll get my bag on that as well. And no, I'm not a tank. Might go semi-tank probably in the endgame, when we get to max 2 stats or more.
    #3: I realized it too, that it would just be either long consecs or short one. I relied much on reading. :x I do change my skill arrangements sometimes, but just stick on blade skills as I don't have any other trees and SPs for them.
    Lastly, I did mention it when I edited my post 'cause still confused what to aim for earlier. You're right, I tried view-adding the rest points and got approximately those numbers.
    I thought of not aiming for highest dmg (I'll just make a new one for it instead) as I'd like to endure and deal considerable-if-not-decent amount of damage, I'll try to work on this. And for tougher bosses, I don't wanna be a burden when in a party. A knocked-down damager won't help. But that's just me.

    Many thanks Impact for sharing. I appreciate it. : )
     
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    Why is it useless now??? Does it no longer give 20mp every 3 sec??? How much does it give now???
     
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    For me it gave 10mp per 3sec with 1k+ mp
     
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    She's referring to ampr+3 which @BK. debunked
     
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    Coz at 1000 atk speed.. U doing 2 hit every 1 second. You can throw a single skill point in but at this very moment.. I don't think anyone would kite a boss for 30 sec just to fill up 1 mp bar. Haha. So just save it up. U will never know if that single skill point could twist your skill build to the one u really like.
     
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    I actually wanted to touch on your equipment. Especially on the stats that are in your weapon. What I'm trying to say is you are losing damage and it's not wise. As a 2h, doing decent damage is natural. It not like we have a proper choice. Lack of secondary gear.. And gain massive critical rate due to astute.. It's natural we will be dps until we max Vit in the future(so we can talk about tanking). But to me you're losing potential dps for nothing, in which I would said it's wasteful.
     
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    Hmm ya thts not worth 10sp
     
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    what is the most effective combo for 2h??
    :):D;):p
     
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    Screenshot_2016-09-27-22-10-21.jpg

    Against a 2h and 1h fu in this event call tfl. Is this OK for dps? I can give u my build.
     
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    saw my name there.... tax please...
     
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    I'm a beggar now :'(
     
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    Currently lvl 41,what 1h sword and armor is best for me? (Please put the location, quest, boss drop, etc. To get the specified item)
     
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    wow! you are really strong!!
    did you use impact and tempest??

    name is (impact) just tought you use impact :D:D:D
     
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    Yes I used impact and tempest..
     
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    Squid Ur Goldfish's lover Elite Member

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    I rethink my words when I say "impact" in the combo because you may think I'm calling you instead xD
     

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