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BS Vit-Bit

Discussion in 'Production Class' started by Rizer phoenix, Mar 21, 2020.

  1. Rizer phoenix

    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    as the title states..
    A BS Vit..essentially needs tech n vit to successfully craft armours..
    But..
    Whats the LEAST amount of tec needed in a full vit char?
    Considering one who plans to only crafting adv garb owo; ) ..at low lvl
    Do l still need tec..or l can let it slide >.>; )?
     
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    Insane23 Well-Known Member

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    For crafting adv garb you just need your difficulty at 105 and create equipament lv10 for 100% craft chance, you can reach this without any tec, through proficiency leveling.
    If you still don't know, 1 proficiency level = 2 tec = 6 dex = 10 str = 1 difficulty point
     
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    mun1409 Well-Known Member

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    People who take tec usually combine crafting with refine, statting and synth. If you are doing that, you will need 255 tec. If you just want to craft adv garb, no need tec as @Insane23 said.
     
  4. Rizer phoenix

    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    I see..l didnt know that last bit x3
    But is there a chance l can use str instead of dex? Or is tec>dex the only possibility for lock 4?

    Yeah no, l got a char (tec>dex) for refine, statting, synth n all in one -w-; ) just wanted to know if only vit 255 was nuff to craft adv garb (max pot at that stat) successfully :/

    Thank you both for answering :3
     
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    Insane23 Well-Known Member

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    Acording to my tests, lock's success rate isn't affected by any stat except tec. Tho, if you're aiming lock5, dex is mandatory to reach difficulty needed to craft HPO. Str doesn't affect alchemy skills like it does to BS skills. Int is its counterpart for alchemy skills: 10 int = 1 difficulty.
    255 vit won't lead to highest current potential available. From my experience, most of time you'll craft it with only 40 potential.
     
  6. Rizer phoenix

    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    Nah, lock 4 is nuff for me @.@; )
    Most l do with my tec>dex bs is ..refine, stat or lock 4 .-.) n tec is necessary for those,
    so l can forgo the dex? For str or int?
    (Str increases diff for bs tree, int increases diff but for alc tree?)
    Assuming my lock 4, statting and ..ability to craft ATLEAST things to increase my prof till..160-70..+/- wont be effected?
    (I dun craft much unless for prof increasing)
    Sorry for so many Que :’

    That is nuff for me xD
    38+ pot is my requirement x3
    But it will be successful right?
     
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    Let see how much Bs-prof & success rate we can get from DEX+ and STR+ gear....

    Weapon 2s = DEX+31(+11 xtal) & STR+20
    Armor 1S = DEX+26(+6 xtal) & STR+20
    Dagger = DEX+2
    Additional 1S = Fighter Chignon+12 (+6 xtal)
    Special 1S = Dex Talisment IV +14(+6 xtal)
    ** the DEX show is added DEX+ crystal **

    total is DEX+85 and STR+40, so is about additional +14 BS Prof and +18 success rate.

    with the default success rate 10%, you can get total 28% success rate if your prof is same with the item difficulty.

    So if you try to minimize the stat spend on TEC and hope with high success rate , since we can get 28% success rate from equipment&crystal, the amount of TEC we need is to fill up the 72% to get 100% success rate, with is 144 TEC.
    ( this is work only if your BaseProf is same to the item you wanna craft )

    another reason to add stat on TEC is anniversary weapon, This series weapon always have higher difficulty level then usual craft weapon. Current latest craft weapon from the mushroom boss is 170 difficulty, but anniv4 weapon is 180, anniv3 is 155, so expect anniv5 may need 200 above difficulty.
    Even though you able to raise your prof until 180, you still can’t craft anniv weapon and this is why you still need TEC(DEX maybe can but success rate will become very low).

    If you have BaseProf 180 and 150 TEC with BS-gear mention above and If anniv5 difficulty is 200, you will have at least
    ( 180 + 150/2 + 28 ) - 200
    = 283 - 200
    = 83% success rate.

    but if you think maybe 50% success rate is okay for you, you can adjust the stat point spend on TEC and invest on other stat you want.
     
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    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    I see..so tech is necessary for that needed success..failed weapon does no good anyway :/
    So vit>tec fate it is -w-; )
    Thank you for such detailed info ><)!
     
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    If you're just aiming lock4 and nothing else, only tec is enough and anything past lv150 synth prof will be useless.
     
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    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    I am thinking its better to make a whole new char for this..
    Since tinkering with my main bs miiiight ruin things..@.@; ) since it does..literally everything..
    Anyway! Thanks again!
     
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    Keep in mind that slot has a tendency to cut some pot. So, better to get more max pot so that you can get the targeted pot you want. Lvl cap now can get 290 Vit IIRC.
    Edit: success rate should be 100% is you have difficulty of 100+(crafted item difficulty) if I'm not mistaken.
     
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    I see!
    Thank u :3
     

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