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Hero Sword Ideas

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by ViPR, Nov 14, 2018.

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  1. UIRepth

    UIRepth Well-Known Member

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    10sec delay rip. Extra motion speed for dw is hard to pass up too
     
  2. JRN

    JRN Well-Known Member

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    Would forumers like me to create my build thread here ? Share my knowledge of how a dw should be played etc and how to get maximum output and satisfaction from this class from my personal experience?
    If so say yes if not I wish everyone the best :)
     
  3. ViPR

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    It wouldn’t hurt to post ur build on the forums and urs seems a lot different than most dws as u like tempest slash a lot. I’d like to see it
     
  4. UIRepth

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    oh well im gonna stick with my lil empress since i got 8.5k atkspd with selfbuff+cross parry+tera only . im alrdy hit 14-17k phamtom slash soo im good i guess.

    Edit: im using wrong element sub soo my dmg pretty low n i didnt equip sword mastery lvl10 n didnt upgrade warcry to lvl10 xd.. update using thos above^. i still have alot of room to improve lvl150 atm i havent change my crystal yet still using gwaimol+ ultimate machina planning to change for marchitar+ pomie Screenshot_20181116-092417.png
     
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  5. JRN

    JRN Well-Known Member

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    All builds are good I need any xtal cuz at monenmi use none lol and I chose to add +100 crit on stats which +100 on Dex makes me lack +240 atck but for the sake of more criticals I'm glad I invested 100 s.p on crit :)
     
  6. Red_Fox

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    safe rest adds flat and % natural regen.
    sober analysis uses base mp regen, so the flat increase doesn't apply.
    safe rest does affect sober analysis, but only a very small amount.

    sober analysis applies lv10 applies 10% natural regen in battle.
    so if safe rest lv10 increases the base by 10%, it raises the effect of sober analysis by 1%.
    if you don't have 5 leftover skill points, it's not worth it when there are other skills you don't have yet. raising it with equipment is easier.
     
  7. ViPR

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    Sober allow 50% base natural mp regen in battle so with 2000mp that’s 100mp every 30 seconds. If short rest works on sober then we could get that down to 100 mp every 15sec which is workable
     
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    ah, yes. the mp formula is different.
    10% is for hp regen. :oops:
     
  9. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    We have already confirmed safe rest and short rest do not affecting either fighters high or sober.
    We have also confirmed stats natural HP regen% from equipment do affect fighters high. The only thing left to confirm is if natural MP regen% stat from equipment if it affects sober analysis.
     
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    I suggest you join our DW Chat in LINE. if you want to, drop ur LINE ID here and someone or i will invite you there. We'd help you out in as much as we can.
     
  11. JRN

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    Lol I need little help but I'll see.
    Been playing this game way too long lol
     
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    yeah, only to get caught mid combo, cus that combo is so long lol
    (aso made dw with high ampr for a reason)


    also, i don't see how tempest is somehow better than ps in damage, if anything, it should be weaker than ps, because ps is a locked skill which means that once an enemy is hit by it, the rest will hit too. but on tempest, the enemy can move out the tempest range which means less to no damage at all.
     
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    Ya and tempest doesn’t have a skill constant. As someone who used to main 1h dps I can definitely say it’s weak and I can only imagine how much weaker it is on a dw
     
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    If you check my YouTube vids you can cleerly see the DMG of tempest is far greater then p/s lol
    Yes ps locks however if you want to be technical let's do a pro and con list ok?
    I'll do tempests feel free to do p/s

    But before that yes my combos longer but I'm old school 1mp combo type :)
    Personal choice ✓

    Right: tempest
    = unsheeth attack
    ( Phantom is not )
    Tempest = aoe based for getting rid of any unwanted mobs ( mini boss farms )
    Tempest = can miss but all my videos show mine do not !!
    Tempest = I'm long range aoe based DW/D's so 12mtre cast range suits my build perfectly.
    Tempest= on1h sucks to clarify !!
    Tempest = has a higher natural proration as it's classed semi physical+semi magical.

    Once I'm fully xtal upgraded I'll gladly throw down Any challenge from anyone :)
     
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    "can miss but all my vid show mine do not" does NOT mean it wont miss, it still has a chance. also, if the boss you're fighting is very mobile (like roga), there will be almost a 80% chance that he will get out of the tempest aoe.

    "getting rid of unwanted mob(mini boss farm"? why do you even attract those unwanted mobs in the first place? just dont use aoe when farming mini boss lol

    "unsheathe attack" so WHAT IF it's an unsheate attack? it doesn't mean it's damage is higher than ps right?

    "you can clearlt see the dmg of tempest is far greater than ps"? i can see that you've never done a 20k ps hit before? cuz its clearly better than your tempret (35k(first hit) + (15k x 6)), even a 11k hit ps will beat that damage lol

    "has a higher natural proration", you do know dw have spinning slash right?

    also, do you not consider the survivability aspect of these two skills? tempest animation is so god damn slow and on the other hand, ps is quick, anf ps also gives INVINCIBILITY
     
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    How is dw tempest better than standard 1h tempest??? Dw have the worst version of tempest because there main hand stat growth is garbage
     
  17. JRN

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    Ok firstly did I not say in my video hero sword is the reason I created this build? Are+100% = str=+2 atck so main hand DMG is not garbage lol
    One sec time to show other forumer something he cleerly hasn't seen yet but judged first.
     
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    I didn’t say dw have low dmg(which they do) I said they have low main hand stat “growth”. Even at 2 max stats dw will still hav the second lowest main atk out of any weapon. Dw won’t even catch up to other weapons until 3 maxed stats. And god forbid they raise the stat cap past 255.
     
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    You do know that dw gets more main hand damage from dex right? so even if dw's str got boosted by 100%, i doubt that it will help much
     
  20. ViPR

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    Can someone else confirm that tempest is an unsheathe atk because this is the first I’m hearing of it.
     
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