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How do p/m barriers work?

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  1. SAM.

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    If you take any damage will the cooldown refresh to back to 30s or will it always continue and when it reaches 30s the damage barrier renews?
     
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    as in the stat or the skill?
     
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    The stat, f example Physical Barrier +3000
     
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    It just add to the damage pool the barrier can absorb in one hit.
     
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    the cooldown only refreshes when u take dmg and the barrier is used again. the cooldown won't refresh itself if all u take is dmg
     
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    What I mean is if I take 3000 magic damage in a few seconds, will the barrier recharge again mid-fight? Likewise, if the barrier does recharge mid fight, is it required, then are you not allowed take any magic damage for an entire 30 seconds or can you still take damage and there's some internal cool down going on every 30s refreshing back to 3000 mDamage? Or is it simply, if you take 3000 damages in a few seconds, the barrier will never come back until you're put of combat for 30s?
     
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    Barrier can nullify a damage(as long as it is below 3k) every 30 seconds. Meaning, it is in cooldown and you just have to wait 30 seconds before it comes back again. Even in mid fight. imo if you gonna rely on that barrier mechanics for survival, add in a tank pet with cover skill. It is like barrier skill to but it is always active, well as long as your pet is still alive that is.
     
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    Barriers cap at 3000? So every time you are hit 3000 mag dmg for example, 30s cooldown starts? If so, barriers are quite useful than I had imagined.
     
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    Pretty sure barriers dont have a cap, thing is they only affect one hit before going into cooldown. So if you have 3k magic barrier but get hit with an attack that would do 100 damage, it still goes into cooldown.
     
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    The barrier only block 1 dmg instance. Even 0 dmg (because of p.def for example) will remove the barrier and it will go on cooldown. That's why barrier is not considered as good mechanic no matter how much u get.
     
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    Maybe I'm misreading, but are you saying that barriers only work for one single hit? Hm... well should be easily testable just get p barrier and see if you take 1 damage more than once.
     
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    Barrier works one hit every 30 sec(unless reduced or extended by gears, etc). As i said damage pool can be stacked and upgraded. Altho there is no known cap on that yet(take note on the chubby armor that boost barrier). I personally use this as a bowman since i am free to move around and rarely be hit.(i i only statted the 3k due to it being mention on the post above, thus a mere starting point)
     
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    Yes. Only 1 hit will remove the barrier and cooldown will start.
     
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    here's an example..
    u can see after my barrier activated, my next few dmgs had no barrier. once the cooldown ends, the barrier will auto activate again. (cept when i took this ss the boss battle didn't last more than 30 secs so i dont hv a 2nd time the barrier was used)
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    the worst part of barriers is that they don't reduce damage to 0.
    you will always take at least 1 damage and loose all your aura buffs.
     
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    Oh ya. Forgot about that part. CF too stopped charging even with barrier.
     
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    These are my points to why i took up a katana along with my bow. Both cf charge and support auras are wiped/stopped when you take a hit. Barrier is very much like magadachi in auto. Zantei on the other hand negates all crap (like a mandatory close range p.def on steroids) my auras and cf charges are safe. If crap happens my gears are set for defense and after that my pet have cover skill the best barrier skill there is.(since it is always on and easy heal-able on the fly)
     
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    here's another example..
    i hv physical barrier & fractional barrier... just missing magic... lol
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    I think fractional barrier is usefully sometimes. Because some depend skill like cross Parry can not block that. And for tank fractional damage really hurt.
     
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    Yes. But too situational. It need boss that uses 1 frac hit very rarely. I don't know of any boss that fit that category, but I don't remember all bosses pattern and dmg type.
     

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