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Marionette hearts vs b nuts and n woods

Discussion in 'Side Quests' started by Hermit.Legend, Feb 26, 2016.

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Sm vs Mario

  1. Shell masks

  2. Marionettes

  3. Combine farm

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  1. Hermit.Legend

    Hermit.Legend Active Member

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    Server no. in nisel mountain: mountainside decreased frm 9 to 5. New quests have really gotten into many players. Though there are still some players like me that think shell masks are still better choices.
    Heres why I think they are better:

    Shell masks:
    Farming:

    Bitter nuts: uncommon drop
    Nisel woods: common drops
    Total experience: 28k/quest (both)
    Time taken for 30 slots of both:
    1-2 hours
    1 stack of b nuts gives 2.5 quests
    1 stack of nisel gives 3.3 quests

    Lets say out of 30, u got 12 stacks of b nuts and 18 stacks of n woods
    No. of quests from b nuts = 2.5 x 12 = 30 quests
    Exp = 18k (its more than 18k) x 30 = 540k+

    Quests frm n woods = 3.3 x 18 = 59.4 quest (round down to 59)
    Exp frm n woods = 10k x 59 = 590k+
    Total exp = 1.03m+!!!!
    If u have more slots then more exp!!!!
    (30 slots is a referrence)
    Summary:
    30 slot farm with 12 b nuts and 18 n wood stks take 1-2 hours giving 1.03m+ exp.

    Buying:
    1 stk of b nuts (ideal)= 3.5k/29pcs
    If u buy all 30 stacks= 105k
    Thats 30 x 2.5 x 18k = 1.35m+ exp
    (Dont be lazy and complete stacks frm sm)

    1 stk of n woods (ideal)= 1.5k/stk
    If you buy 30 stacks= 45k
    Thats 30 x 3.3 = 99, 99 x 10k = 990k+ exp

    Summary:
    30 stks b nuts cost 105k giving exp more than 1.35m
    30 stks n woods cost 45k giving exp more than 990k.

    Selling:
    When selling 30 stks b nuts (farmed in 2.5-3 hours maximum) for 3.5k/29 pcs,
    Total earned = 3.5k x 30 = 105k
    (N woods are less in demand so ill leave them)
    + u get 25s per quest (ceramic bow) if u sell or nice amount of wood pts
    Summary:
    U get 105k for 30 stk b nuts when u sell at 3.5k/29pcs. Farming them takes 2-3 hours

    Marionettes:
    Farming:
    Marionette heart: very rare drop
    Quests in a stack = 2.475
    Exp per quest = 86k
    Amount gained in 1-2 hours (comparing sm)= 2-3 stks(?)
    (If 3 stks) No. of quests= 3 x 2.475= 7.425 (round down to 7)
    Exp= 7 x 86k = 602k
    Time for 30 stks= abt 20 h
    Ofcourse it gives higher exp than combined shell mask drops,
    30 x 2.475 x 86k = 6.385m+
    Taking 1.5h for shell mask round, in 20h, 13 rounds can be done and exp frm 13 rounds = 1.03m x 13 = 13.39m
    Summary:
    In 2 hours u can get abt 600k exp
    30 stks, 20 hours, give abt 13.39 million

    Buying:
    Ideal price for stk= 25k
    30 stks = 30 x 25k = 750k
    Exp = 30 x 2.475 x 86k = 6.385m+
    Summary:
    30 stks cost 750k with total exp of 6m+

    Selling:
    750k m for 30 stks but takes around 20h
    Rev III useful but just 1 makes a burden on slots unless you have stacks.
    Summary:
    30 stks sell for 1.2m but take 20 hours for 30 stks.

    Comparing with shell masks, its
    10 x 105k = 1.05m with continuing of b nuts only farm.
    Summary:
    Pure B nut farm gives 10 rounds in 20 hours giving 1.05m as total
    18 stk n woods sell for 27k
    12 stks b nuts sell for 42k, total = 69k
    13 rounds give 69 x 13 = 906k spinas


    Combining the farms:
    New Method for quick leveling:
    Farm Marionette hearts only 4 stks (not more) (Takes almost same time as 1 round farm at Nisel)
    Sell them for 110k spinas
    Buy N woods ONLY at the price of 5k/4stk or less
    Taking the no. of slots in bag = 28
    No. of times u can buy for 5k/4stk = 28/4 = 7 for full bag
    7 buys cost= 7 x 5k = 35k
    Now that u hav full 28 slots of n woods turn them in
    Repeat it
    Cost= 35k
    Do it 3rd time as well

    Total cost is 105k
    With that, you have full 28 slots 3 times
    That is 28 x 3 = 84 stk of n woods!!!
    Onto the experience calculation
    1 stk = 3.3 quests
    86 stks = 3.3 x 86 = 283.8 (round down to 283) quests
    Each quest gives 10k exp, total exp = 10k x 283
    = 2830000 or 2.83 m exp
    Time for selling, buyin and turning in may exceed time for normal nisel farms but reward is worth it
    U spend 105k of the gained 110k by buying and selling n woods and mmh (Ofcourse u can keep the rest 5k or buy another 4 stk)

    Conclusions:
    In my opinion, shell mask gives more exp and spinas over time based on my calculations and results. Shell masks more profitable in all fields except if you are rich.
    Buy marionettes if you are really rich (having 20m+) and really need quick lvling. 750k is ok price for 6.385m exp.

    Please comment any question you have or anything I missed out or anything different in your opinions or anything I might have mislooked giving marionettes upper edge.
    Also if I am wrong on prices and time taken for stacks plz reply so that I can make changes. Also if this post is unclear and not neat, then I request someone to repost it more neatly.
    U can also suggest ur ideas over it. If I am unaware of any other reason for marionettes, plz state so.
    Thank you!

    PS: plz ignore any grammatical mistakes or spellings.

    ~MrHermit
     
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  2. Hermit.Legend

    Hermit.Legend Active Member

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    Also if you are bored of farming b nuts all the time and need a change in scenery then its your choice :)

    I didnt mention other new quests:
    Mint gummies are rarer drops and terrain for its farm area is rough ----> rough for stormers
    Other new quests take longer to farm and require mats frm different maps so I ignored them too.
     
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  3. Annika-9

    Annika-9 Well-Known Member

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    Nice calculation! I was planning to do the same but yey I didn't have to:p At first I thought maybe it's just psychological because it's faster to fill up my bag with b.nuts but m. hearts give more exp-- but now you confirmed it isn't the case!@_@ I prefer farming B. Nuts and Nisel too, I can multitask, do something else in real life while just clicking and spamming farming combo unlike in New Moon where I have to actively look at my screen else I wouldn't notice that I've flinched and being beaten up by the marios lol!
     
  4. -Saki-

    -Saki- Well-Known Member

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    For anyone who needs that math simplified to determine how to get the most exp out of their money...
    Marionette Hearts - about 5 exp per spina
    Bitter Nuts - about 13 exp per spina
    Nisel Wood - about 22 exp per spina
     
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  5. saiyatan

    saiyatan Well-Known Member

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    Nisel for Exp, easy to find party.
    Mario for Spina/Mat/Level up your Mage, hard to find a decent party.
    Mint Gummy for the app.
    Overall, if you are somekind of super rich BS who makes millions per day, buy mmh.
     
  6. Aymaners

    Aymaners Well-Known Member

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    I sell mmh and buy bnut rofl. But if you're rush n wanna be cap right away/easily gets bored with tiq then mmh is for you
     
  7. king77

    king77 Well-Known Member

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    very agree
     
  8. 0Boruto1

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    whoa nice
     
  9. Ryushika

    Ryushika Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I did this math myself earlier. I figured out that you get way more exp via Nisel then anything else. It just takes a very long time to turn it all in. But it's worth it!!!
     
  10. Cerain

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    B. Nuts for me
     
  11. Ryushika

    Ryushika Well-Known Member

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    It's also fun to sell them. 1k may not seem like a lot but they re vey easy to get. I max my inv and bank within an hour or so. ;)
     
  12. sura

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    Long live nisel mountain..lol..I agree that bnuts n nwoods r easier to farm n their exp isn't bad tough..
     
  13. BK

    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    Around 220k got me from 93 40%+ to 94 60%+ with mmh and it only took around 4mins to turn them in
     
  14. kidvotinh1412

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    Was u added the exp/monster?
     

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