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Ninja Magician (discontinued)

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by Red_Fox, Jan 2, 2016.

  1. Icevist

    Icevist Well-Known Member

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    It is a term that determine the target of a mobs/boss.
    For example, you get the aggro of a mobs by attacking them. (meaning the mobs will target and hit you)
    While you in a party (boss fight particularly), boss will particularly aim one member who has the highest aggro.
    Basically, tank will try to generate aggro to help others (so the boss will aim him instead of others)

    The Spy Talisman -25% aggro means it will reduce your aggro generated by 25%.
    So it is good for Non-tank Char.
     
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  2. Red_Fox

    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    aggro is generated in combat.
    it's a hidden stat that determines who is targeted by the monsters attacks.
    -%aggro reduces the amount of aggro your skills generate, so that you won't be targeted if you are in a party.
    when there is a red arrow at your feet, you are targeted by a monster, because you have the highest aggro.
    if another party member generates more aggro than you, it will become the new target.

    EDIT: once again, i was to slow and someone posted before i finished writing ...
     
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  3. Icevist

    Icevist Well-Known Member

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    Oops Sowwy:p
     
  4. Red_Fox

    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    *bump*
    back to Lv50!!!!!!
    and this time i don't need to reset, it's perfect. =(^.^)=

    without STR physical attacks are weaker, but with damage drop-off and crits it's still great.
    high attack speed, high cast speed, decent evasion.
    still unsure about choosing between poison knive and gattling knive ...
    i think i will make it dependant on what skills come after those.
     
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    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    *bump*
    reworked the skill and stat descriptions and added some more tips.

    i decided not to learn Gatling Knive or Poison Dagger until INT is maxed.
    those skills are better with more STR and DEX stats, so it is more effective to focus on magic skills now.
    when INT will be maxed, i can max DEX for Poison Knive or add STR for Gatling Knive.
    i learned that single target and area skills both have thir disadvantages and it is better to have some of both to use the most effective skill in every situation.


    EDIT: i'm Lv56 now, my most powerful attack was a Magic Javelin with 8000 damage.
    the strongest Throwing Knive had 263 on a critical hit and the strongest staff attack was 630, also a critical hit.
    i always score the support rank in boss battles, and if i have support competition in a mage party, i can easyly get the breaker rank with my staff attacks. (no matter the party composition, i always get a rank ;) )
     
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    BlackRex A Black Bunneh Elite Member

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    Hi, i often read your thread and somehow amazed how you see your char build as a ninja from beginning, i really want to comment from your first post and next post and next post, however i decided not to and only lurking from shadow :) . and seeing this post, now im glad finally you realized that maxing 1 stat like focusing on INT first is more beneficial for magic based skill at current cap.
    now this is my comment :
    Getting Throwing knife (maxed) is good to build damage drop off before releasing your main DPS skill (which might be storm or wall or arrow).
    Your dagger build is somehow proven good for a 1v1 tourney for mage tier to get breaker and attacker rank at the same time rather than typical bitter nut combo used by other typical mage.
    You're not the only one magical ninja out there. At least in certain group, there are several people already use this kind of build that have high matk and CSPD to begin with. and they are good mages. Try some vid in youtube of jap players as well.
     
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  7. Red_Fox

    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    i'm thinking of adding more priest skills ...
    it would be a useful addition, and holy fist is a physical skill (have fun with your crit stats)
    also holy fist with a staff uses 75%matk and 25%atk, which is exactly what the INT stat gives: 4matk and 1 atk.
    this skill uses your full power (even the crit stat) ;)
    first i need to finish with magic wall, then i will learn more priest powers.
    (also my mp pool is only 500, casting 300 and 400mp skills needs lots of charging which slows down a lot, even though my charge time is quite short)

    EDIT: nevermind priest skills.
    collecting lots of active skills means lot of mp usage, and we already have 2 weapon skill trees.
    on lv65 i will have mastered magic wall, then i will add Battle skills.
    "concentrate" has a wierd description, but it is the skill i heard about, which allows critical hits on magic attacks.
    that is exactly what i need.
     
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    Level 65 yay =(^.^)=

    instead of battle skills i decided to go with survival skills first.
    the HP related skills in this case, my mp charge is quite fast, so some battle healing besides bless is a good addition.
    then i will learn magic lances and impact and then i will probably look into battle skills.
    gattling knive and poison knive won't be useful until much later, double stab requires poison knive, so dagger skills are finished for now.
    for magic i'm completing the lancer branch, then go for more passive skills to boost my abilities.
    (if you chose the blaster branch, blast and storm would be your skills here, and maybe something else if you don't have javelin.)

    also it's time for new gear.
    i set my sights on the killer coat and mace of destruction.
    they have magic and speed/dodge stats, exactly what we need.
    i will update the first post when i have the gear, but it will take some time. i also have to care for my alchemist and my new knight.

    EDIT: the breakers don't want to party with non-storm users and then there are only snipers around.
    i can't get roga's gear like this, so i will level my knight first. until then this guide is paused.

    EDIT2: got help from guild, grabbed a slotted Mace of Destruction (best staff ever xD) and made Killer Coat at the blacksmith. my goal is to get a slotted one from Roga, after all it's the best armor for this class.
    it has MATK, speed and dodge, all i could ever want.
    same for the staff, the +100ATK doubled the power of my knive skills =(^.^)=
     
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    i'm just 96% away from lv70, then i can put 3 points in Impact :D
    also i finally found out how to make screenshots of my stat screen, so there will be a big update when i get the next level up =(^.^)=

    and i dealt 1000+ damage with a simple staff attack ;)
    (i have a screenshot of the damage log, will upload it later, when i move stuff from phone to computer)
     
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    the lv70 update is here =(^.^)=
    - first post edited

    and here is the proof of my 1000+ damage staff attack:
    [​IMG]
    it's a combination of poration and critical hit
    (i have no crit damage stats at the moment)
     
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    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    new update:
    - the guide is now Version VI
    - most text has been rewritten and i added 2 new cool images
     
  12. Toramwasmyidea

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    I remember when I first commented on this build long ago, it was a bit of a mess dude, stats all of the place lol - glad to see you have improved it, and have a better vision what it is. btw the assassin avatar would suit this nicely no?
     
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    i dont have the money to buy avatars.
    of course i improved it a lot :p
    i started this guide shortly after starting the game ...
     
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    Toramwasmyidea im probably high right now Elite Member

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    I see lol, maybe ninja garbs from ninja like mobs(Japanese game c.c) will be farmable soon - then your dream is reality
     
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    *bump*
    i'm level 77 now and work on mastering Power Wave. my attack range is 8m so i can attack from the same range as my daggers. now i only need to get close for wall and impact.
    with the Folium Staff i have 800+ aspd, wich makes it easier to get breaker rank :3
     
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    I can see this build he's making may not be a formidable one, but hey what the heck, as long as he's happy using it and doing those runs, then it'll definitely do.

    I want to party with this build and see how he can support my brawler while doing his projectiles.

    *still waiting for maintenance to finish, let's castrate Mino for now~^_^

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    judging my mage is difficult because there's nothing to compare it to.
    it is very much different from the standard mage.
    i consider it to be an evasion mage or something like that...
    my impact-wall combo does lots of damage, especially on bosses that are immune to knockback (yelb).
    the rest is poration support and utility (slow and stop).

    with poration, my magic arrows do 10k damage now :3
    pretty awsome for a 1mp skill, and it triggers chain cast ;)
     
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    after experimenting with magic swordsman builds, i had another enlightenment and realised a new weakness in my build.
    i could just continue to edit this thread, but it contains hardly any useful comments, so i will end it here and make a new one instead.
    i will name it "The Elusive Illusion Magician" =(^.^)=
    the basic principle is the same, but it is much better now :p

    EDIT: here -> http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/the-elusive-illusionist.13115/ =(^.^)=
     
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