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Pet Natures Chart

Discussion in 'Pet/Taming' started by Alzarith, Feb 7, 2018.

  1. Alzarith

    Alzarith Elite Member Elite Member

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    Updated it and with a little more info, working on changes. I'll upload it here later. I'm getting mixed answers about gentle nature though
     
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    Xiavu Lurking Overlord of LOVE[L.O.L.] Elite Member Epic Member

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    Weird thing as i was grinding my devoted pet at big mask and caught some frogs from impact damage. My pet cast a party buff skill and it aggro-ed the frogs. This pet does not have rage attack since i am testing diffrent tank skill setups(grinding a pack of dogs is a total b!+@# job but i love it!). I was wondering if pet nature have sumthing to do with it since i have done similar setup with my manticore before (yup, the pink lion) and aggro generation is basically crap. Can anyone confirm this?
     
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    Thank you very much for an update. ^_^
     
  4. Xiavu

    Xiavu Lurking Overlord of LOVE[L.O.L.] Elite Member Epic Member

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    Hope the put up a list of test subject to try on. Not all of us can memorize which attack is fron which boss to test upon. There is already a green yes on all of the orange column. And since nobody can collect them all, we all have to contribute with what we have in hand. Notions, confirmations and personal experience is a big help since there is so few of us pet lovers.
     
  5. Alzarith

    Alzarith Elite Member Elite Member

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    Spikes are...well spikes like at ecb, Ceiling aoe is aoe from above that falls down, and Missile aoe is like Twilight Dragon's death balls.

    The theory is that party buff skills work the same way as skills like war cry, where the buff hits everyone in the party, and the Aggro is generated on everything currently aggro'd in the room. When testing, make sure all variables remain exactly the same. If anyone with a supporter pet can tell us if pet buffs work this way, it would be a great help. Remember auto attacks = 10 Aggro, Aggro shift = 200 Aggro, and Aggro initial value = mp cost.
     
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    Charging AoE = Charge
    Single Target AoE = Player Epicenter
    Straight Line AoE = Straight Line
    Circle AoE = Foe Epicenter
    Spike = Floor
    Ceiling = Meteor
    Missile = Bullet
    there is also Bowling (flying edge in japan), but not all of them have a predicted path.

    pet buff skills work exactly like player buff skills, they generate aggro on all active mobs on the field.
     
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    I have question regarding proactive bonus.

    I understand pet benefit greatly from aspd, but what does cspd do for pet?o_O

    As im aware pet cast skill instantly:)
     
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    I've no idea :( sorry
     
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    XD Well maybe its for future use of pet update:rolleyes:
     
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    If i could guess about cspd i think it is about the attack patterns. Every attack cycle there is a notable pause of pets setted up for maximum damage(like mochelo, you see pet skill on top of head and the actual delivery of skill w/pet animation). I said guess since it can only be confirmed with 2 identical pet apps with similar skillset(and we know how RNG screw us over being the norm) with only variant in nature. Skill activation and actual delivery need to be timed, best to see the that is with the use of a support aura to further boost cspd for a more noticable effect to pets.
     
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    Ah true, i do see sometime my mochelo feel faster at casting the skill the more he lvlup.

    Thanks for info:rip:
     
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    It has been confirmed by @mayam that pet cspd affects the delay between magic skills and physical skills. The only exceptions to this are stealth attack and rage attack, which are both controlled by aspd only regardless of their attack type being magical or physical. Patterns do not change or modify the delay between skills, they only change the animations.
     
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    I think there’s some discrepancies with the Calm nature traits. It’s listed as “can only use support skills” in the Excel sheet, but my pet with raging blow + critical up can use those skills just fine.

    Some observed AoE dodge patterns for it:
    - moves out of the way of red circle AoEs (foe epicenter) and line charges
    - is there a specific name for the delayed blue circle AoEs? The ones that are placed on the ground like a mine, fade out with only the green outlines left, and then explode. Calm nature moves out of the way of these circles (seen from testing it against the boss version of Perro :p)

    There’s probably other stuff but I haven’t checked too closely.

    Also, is there a list of which pets continue dodging after you die? I know Justice (and apparently Devoted?) does that, but I don’t know about any others.
     
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    Thank you for the help! I think those aoes you are referring to are the ceiling aoes. Aoe that drops from above. And the calm nature thing was found in the game code, I guess we will need to find more information to correctly understand it.

    About pets who continue to dodge after you die, we don't know right now but I would love to have some help learning about those. I can add the info to the chart as well. I am also preparing a document with various information about pets so I can add it there as well.
     
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    in my experience, all natures continue to fight and avoid AoEs as long as they still have a valid target.
    if you die in a boss fight, and your pet targeted the boss before you died, it will continue to fight.
    if there were minions, or you were fighting multiple mobs on the field, all the aggro will switch to the pet after you die, but the pet will only attack the mob it has attacked before and will ignore the others, even if they kill it.
    that is because the pet shares it's target with you and will not select a new target on it's own.
     
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    Entire chart has been completed thanks to our hardworking data miners!

    *asobimo called the gentle nature "calm" in code because they are bad at their jobs*
     
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    Nice chart finally compleat! Looks like steady is the prime survivalist for any skill boost mochelo assasins.
    *put that note here and gets back to tank pets*
     
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    I did sone quick test using masked warrior as subject. Attack pattern is the ff
    Auto attack, pet grabs aggro immediately after it made its own auto. I grabbed aggro back using quick motion buff. Watch my pet untill it grabs the aggro again. Cast/spam test skill to grab aggro back.

    I use javelin(200mp) and heal(300mp) as test skill for the process(coz magic lance is really slow and im testing aggro from mp consumption)

    When i use javelin spam it is a bit hard to grab aggro back from pet.

    With single cast of heal, i quickly grabbed back the aggro. Thus confirming @Alzarith 's statement that devoted pets generate 200 aggro in auto attack. I'll test it again with my bow summoner and post my findings here in this thread.
     
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    I still think this requires further testing. I just tested at the same place and did not get the same result. I aggrod masked warrior ultimate to engage, then my pet hit once with an auto and it did not take aggro.
     
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    Pssst psssst, guys, Justice doesnt evade candella meteors. This was tested with 2 justice cubes of destiny. They just stay still and wait to be K.O.ed T_T
     

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