Possible damage calculation for DS/DW Dual wield/Dual Sword (Agi and Dex)

After a lot of testing and mindless calculations.
it seems the calculation for off hand is:
Example consistent Main Weapon Damage: 800

1. (AGI/DEX) * Main Weapon Damage (45% sure about this part)
or
2. (DEX/AGI) * Main Weapon Damage (Still testing)
Ex.
1. 69 Agi, 120 Dex, Main Weapon Damage of 800
so....
((69/120) = 0.575) * 800 = 460

so your off hand damage is 460.

or
2. ((120/69) = 1.739 or 1.74)
If((DEX/AGI) > 1) then
(DEX/AGI) - 1 = .74* 800 = 592
your off hand damage is 592.
else if ((DEX/AGI) = 1) then
(DEX/AGI) = 1* 800 = 800
your off hand damage is 800.
else if AGI > DEX then ex. 120 agi 69 dex (still not sure about this part since i have higher dex)
(DEX/AGI) + 1 = (0.575 + 1)* 800 = 1260

feel free to add your insights.
note this is just normal damage. and value(800) of given Main Weapon Damage is imaginary, used only as base value

 

hello... meaning to say... theres no point having a high attack weapon on sub??

 

it's not quite finished yet.
i just calculated it based on player stats, haven't included the stats from subs

 

I think you're overanalyzing offhand damage. It did say that offhand weapon attack will affect your offhand damage(hidden stat).
My thoughts: offhand attack stat is simply weapon attack(+refine) + attack stat from agi/str stat + skills(godspeed, attackUP?) + base damage.

PS: how much attack stat does weapon attack gives per weapon attack?

appreciate the research bruh, keep it up!

 

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this is just based on my observation that when i tried adding agi stat, the damage becomes proportionate to the dex.
this is just raw damage, not taking into account the weapon attack, and weapon stat

 

Nice theory. I'd like to see how this goes.

 

i'll take your input into consideration. there are a lot of variables i cant seem to understand and see just yet

 

Hey Cypherian!
Thanks for trying to figure out off hand damage for dws. The only problem with both calculations is that the numbers will be way off if the dw is full dex or full agi build.
My dw has 137 dex and 1 agi, so based on the first calculation I should be doing close to 0 and based on the second calculation, my offhand damage should be MUCH GREATER than my main weapon damage.
Based on calc 2,
(137/1) = 137
Since 137>1,
Off hand dmg = (137 - 1) *800 = 108800

As Niflheimr mentioned, it could be related to off hand weapon damage, something like:
Off hand dmg = (off hand weapon dmg * 0.5)+ agi + str
Where off hand weapon dmg is the number displayed when viewing the weapon, unless the weapon has been refined - in which case the damage amplification of the refinement level should be considered before dividing it by half.
Please note that I have NOT tested this, it's just a theory.

 

Main weapon ATK equals STR + 2·DEX + AGI
Sub weapon ATK (hidden) equals STR + 2·AGI

IDK. I could possibly not know what the waffles you are trying for here. But since I'm not striking for hundreds of thousands of points of damage, your math seems 'a bit off' or the accompanying text is misleading.

Have fun. Bye bye. Oh, I've also been known to lie or simply be wrong

 

Sigh, please read my post in its entirety before posting.
The calculation I displayed with the crazy numbers was Cypherians calculation, I was pointing out how it could skew; using a full dex build as an example.
But regarding your attk calcs, what about the weapon damage? Do you get full weapon damage for the offhand weapon?

 

Sigh, please don't assume its all about you

I was poking Cypherian like yourself. Full sub weapon damage. But it's been a while I see, so you've likely moved on or come to your own conclusions.

Curses. If I hadn't dropped this thread we could have had a proper flame war.

'Sigh'. What an ass thing to emote

 

That's what I thought at first, but your statement on hundreds of thousands of damage led me to think otherwise.
By the way, ease up on that prick undertone of yours, will ya? Cypherian was trying to help all of us and I was pointing out scenarios where those particular calculations wouldn't work; not 'poking fun'.

You're right, 'sigh' is kind of an 'ass' thing to emote. I'll stick with SMH this time.