What happen to refinement adjustments (+ compensation) ?

About a month ago, Toram posted a news about lowering the success rates of refinement support items.
They said they will send compensation for it, so what happen?

Asobimo is being forgetful these days
Hopefully it's forgotten forever, so they won't lower the success rate.




Honestly, please don't lower the success rate. Refiner life is tough

 

They didnt lower success rates....
What they did is increased the amount of degrades if u fail refining an equipment
You now can degrade as much as 3 ranks

+E to +D if you fail, there's a possibility that it will go back to +7
It used to be a maximum degrade of two like +E to +D, fail then youd drop as much as +8

 

SADNESSSS
this is Masochist
imagine u tried refining from d-c
and degraded back to 6 ._.

no wonder nowdays the 'expectation' is not accurate anymore x-x

 

you could check the maximum number of degrades by looking at below the risk cracks
you can see +4...-7 or +3...-6, the maximum number of degrades will be the sum of the two based off the current refinement level

 

there is something below the crack risks :O?!
(only know there is something known as expectation above it)
kk will check it out rip :")

 

They will lower the success rate. It's still hasn't been implemented yet

 

it has already been done since august... the success rates for those items

 

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I was just after BK from pg, then back to sofy, then i got wisp from 3people, so i go to rakau and play with coryn, while i replying.
And then, 1plyer want me to fill his arm stat, of course im glad, and so, he come to meet me at rakau, i said that while i am filling his stat, he ia free to do anything like kill coryn [Falling] or piedra [hematite], and i say i could refine his arm too, for free with hematit he got, bcouse i wanna refine my shield too, he said okay..
After a couple minuts, im done and he give me 23 pcs of hematite.
Here is the main problem (not actually problem)
I give him arm +8, he said didnt believe me, "how"??? So i make a prof-ment with my shield that hasnt been refine yet, and send him a photo ss in Line.

And his hematit still has 4 left, of course i didnt give him back => bcouse he said its for me (looool).
Now, the issue,
Is hematit +8 is uncommon????
Because i always make +8 with hematit and +9 with dama ore..
And is that why hematit at board last night (09/09/16) is soo expensive (45k) then dama.ore (40k) per stack

(indo, please do not doble read konsonen of my the title)

Least.but not last
And waiting for comment please..

Tyvm

 

yes +8 with hematite is uncommon (30% success rate)
i usually do with dama ore :> more success rate


hematite is more op because it is harder to farm (eerie xta and some soldier rats near s.roar) it is harder to get a pt (s.rats) and more people farm mino than eerie xta (i think)

meanwhile dama ore is at stone knights, some people farm it for metal mats so it has more chances of pts.
same for mino people do skin runs so more chances of pts

either way better to choose dama ore since it is cheaper (by 5k) n more chance of success rate

 

I forget the risk, bcouse almost not pay attention to it, most i do ia make +8 with hemat, as fast as i tap, hehe, and bcose always to +8 so i wont stop before got 8, and i know trick to help the cance up too, so i always done to 8 then dama to 9. Then HP mith to D. Never to C, too lazy to buy oricald,
Becose hematit is cheaP..

 

i rather lesser risk to save myself from the frustration XD
u can try dama ore to D heard some people did it but cost 1hour :") my tapping skills is bad.lol. thats why i hate breaking boss >_>

 

Yeah, aometimes i m not taping boss too,
Oops, bu the way, back too topics
Is true,?
Couze i forgot the risk to D with dama ore, .
If i recall corectly. Dama to D is 10lvl break.
To E is 9lvl break, alredy try once, amd wont do that again, even it is succes..
Owh yeah, and what i feel recently after that MT is..
No less succesion rate (a.k.a the same)
No less efect or anti degra (a.k.a the same)
But more chance to refine down when its failed. But you can some times prevent it with some trick IF its just refine 5-9 upper refine will still do good with other item refinement..
P.S. , this is what i feel, as i just playing refine to D
Sorry no offense

 

yes u can success D even though it is 10cracks. just tough af like gettin a boss xta
well i did a refine earlier...
9-E using ori+antideg
failed 5 times
used mythril+antideg
succeed in 1st try. lol.

yeah i do feel the chances of it refining down when it failed.....earlier i got to +9 and plan to gamble E with dama ore >:3
ends up using 40dama ore just to get back to +9 and wasted quite some time ;-; cri
and definitely lower refines are usually more irritating than upper refines. well upper can still be irritating eg. u tried doing D but failed back to 9.....:")
ill agree that the chances of failing increased....now i can fail to +3 when using dama ore... used to be at least a 4 or 5 XD
np not offended in any way XD

 

Like and Funny too
Eheheh, sorry,
I really am frustate too when i try to boost hema with dama, when its just 3lvl break out of 10, with 7 succes,,,,,
-> got the 3??????? Soooo T.T
And when u do +9+E to up.. 7lvl break 3of succes, and we got the 7...
It always irritate me xd

Owh, yeah, here is some tips::::::

When getokin (started the refine)
U will see hammer right and left and it will spin around with slowwwwww motion.
Some way u can Choose::
1. Follow the motion of hammer.
2. Make a patern like u pouring someting to the altar.
3. Random motion but still make a harmony.

All 3 of it, using both 2 finger we all ussually used play toram. But, end of motion is when the hammer last, hammed down both, used both finger do the same.

It s just 3of many way i used

Hope this help..
I dont want to make a video, coz my phone is sukk..
Only can do ss. But i ll try make video 1 later on..
Oh and i m not forcing to believe me, coz my trick is mine only, ^_^ last night i make 3eq +D with anti deg and 10hp mitril.
Start from +9 +9 +8

 

ikr aso gives TROLLSLSLLSLLSLSLSL
(going a bit off) for more info visit: stat success ratesss (like wth u failed at 99%?!)
the trolls are seriously irritating cri ;-;

XDDD 'random motion'
:") ill try it later* still depends on luck though ;-;

ill share another secret method:
when ur failing a lot, quit refine screen and do either of the following:

-stand and sit
-change ch
-move around
-relog
-buy a stk of mythril/ori from sololo
-buy until ur stk of mythril/ori has reached a stk

^ i find the last 2 most effective because sololo is being a ** and enjoys scamming people. get scammed and u will feel ur luck getting better ;-;


omg that is like 3hp mythril per D why did i spend 5+ori doing one E-D

but to be honest i dont mind failing since i can restock anytime via sololo
i just cant bare to see cute antidegs dying (turning them in is tough and buying ready-made antideg is OP.


lel still depends on luck.....at +E im happy enough (hard dama ore times )

 

I relly did a happy laugh face, u re interesting, please marry me if u re a girl around 20.. pffftttt
~(^_^)~
Yep, i try that too, getting scammed by sololo make it sometimes better, ^_^
Maybe she xast a hidden spell on her sell things.. bahaha
,,back to topics again.. xD
Try it, if u have 2reset stat
Stat your point to some str after full tec, mine is 21.
And then some on dex.. or using accu +str or +dex,,, equipment..
But at your own risk,,, hehehehehe

 

EWWWWWWWWWW no.2 loli grabber spotted
(ok that was off topic)

:") i usually refine near sololo so that i can get scammed by her/be 'blessed' by her luck
regarding that it seems only tec affects refine success rate. o-o' (because if dex gears give success rate like they do to arm crafting pp gonna get +SSS gears when they hit 2cap stats of dex+ tec. and aso is being * and love nerfing things......to make sure we dont get too op )

 

why am i a loli grab??? Im still 22 tough

Yeaah, that is why, we can scamed others too... buahahaha, sololo teach us... and now mutoto... T.T
And,,,,,
True enough. An then the poor will sink, and the rich will be poor, and the BS will rise up,
Bahahaha,
Back to topics,...
Yeah, i think maybe i just lucky... with too many luck that my eq in bank are almost all +D
/(*v*) sparkling..
Well, i cant say anything anymore,,,
The firsy thing is BS full TEC..
Other stat is OP.. i chose str for powering when hamering, and dex/accu for accuracy.. but maybe it doesnot connect.1 to another too.. LOL
I will soon try another uper refinement. Coz still saving spina
I will work again to this tings..
Hope we help

(And the comedy too) hehehehe

I still.wanna know if you wanna marry me @Vocal~

 

this is off topic but i think ur suitable for @AlfinReyn

*^* i doubt because 10m emblem has been released....so bots are gonna be rich af
either way

u shld concentrate on either str/dex XD so that in future ur tec bs can also be a dex bs oxo
str for 2h,1h lower succcess rate
dex for bg,1h higher success rate
idk where bow falls into, but ur success rate shld be high since ur tec XD

dont mix the two oxo'' else u gonna end up making 'normal pot' 2h, 1h and bg
that is for the future moneh . lol^

off topic again =-='

either way for refinement no matter how many cracks it is just yolo it. grab some tissue grab a sololo grab some spina. sit there 24h and do refine. dont forget antideg ofc*.

^with that u will eventually get S
gonna take u a long time and spina though


for rf compensation they just forgotten to compensate us sad people because they are busy staring at autumn bikinis forgetful :")

 

Nooooooooooooooooo


I ll try moreeeee