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Our 2 Handed Burst Build Discussion (Let's build together)

Discussion in 'Warrior' started by Cella [Yurie ♥], Feb 22, 2016.

  1. Cella [Yurie ♥]

    Cella [Yurie ♥] Elite Member Elite Member

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    Okay... I don't want to only share my builg by I need a lot of input....

    Stats : Pure STR / 1crit

    Sword (65)
    Hard Hit 5
    Astute 10
    Trigger Slash 10
    Rampage 10 (Main DPS) or... spiral air?
    Sword Mastery 5
    Quick Slash 5
    Sword Tech 10
    Roar 10

    Survival Skill : 12
    Safe Rest (5)
    Hp Boost (7)

    Battle Skill (20)
    Attack Up 5
    Smash 5
    Critical 10

    Knight Skill : (1)
    Assault Attack 1

    Magic Skill :(22)
    Magic Impact 7

    So here's my question :
    Is Rampage worth it? Is Spiral Air better for this part?
    Should I use sober?
    What's best combo....
    Any better build?

    UPDATE :
    Guys, actually this is what I think,
    - Prepare a lot of revita
    - Use Vita PLus 2 (Add max HP +1000
    )
    - Vacine 2 (Can't be flinch stumble or stun for 2 mins)
    - Magiadd 2 (Max Mp x3)
    - Muscle Mushroom (Boost attack)
    - Mega Speed Potion (Boost Attack Speed)

    ><)/ *Slapppppp (RAMPAGE!!!)

    Input please <3
     
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  2. PhongTom

    PhongTom Well-Known Member

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    Should be maxed hp boost 10, & rampage is a really hard & dangerous skill to control
     
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  3. Saphos

    Saphos Old Sword Nerd Elite Member

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    Problem with Rampage is that it lasts too long. And with recent boss and how fast they move, Rampage is not effective.

    You could use it after Trigger slash to speed up animation, but it is still too slow to be safe.

    If I were to build a 2h right now, I'd probably take power wave, and do this combo: Sonic wave > War cry (Save) > Impact (Consec) > Tempest (Smite) > Gloria (Swift) or any other 1mp finisher that is not weapon specific.

    Playing it as a ranged 2h. Using the 100mp combo above and use Quick Draw.
     
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  4. Cella [Yurie ♥]

    Cella [Yurie ♥] Elite Member Elite Member

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    heee... u use power wave, impact, quick draw, gloria!? Seriously!? How many MP it will be!?
     
  5. PhongTom

    PhongTom Well-Known Member

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    For me, rampage combo should have Sanctuary in save than warcry, keep you more safe during rampage
     
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  6. Saphos

    Saphos Old Sword Nerd Elite Member

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    I haven't calculated how many SP it will cost. Probably more than what we can afford? I can math it up shortly, but @Samm's build is pretty much what I'd suggest for 2h at this current stage, until 4th tier skills.

    2hs cannot tank any better than other DPS classes any more, might as well keep our distance for now and stay ranged.
     
  7. Cella [Yurie ♥]

    Cella [Yurie ♥] Elite Member Elite Member

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    Well... Long distance... if I power wave i might not use rampage or impact.....
    But with long distance strategy our DPS wil be weaker... so sword class seems kinda hopeless without level 4 skill ._.
    I'm thinking of spamming 2mp combo with disturb skills tho..
     
  8. Saphos

    Saphos Old Sword Nerd Elite Member

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    The only thing that last long enough for a rampage is stun. 2hs have no way to stun properly.
     
  9. PhongTom

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    As for me, i tested rampage before, didnt like cuz it takes too long to do full ouput compared to tempest. Heres 2 set of example on build. Depending on individual choices, running #2 build now.
    ((Lv80))
    #1
    Stats:
    Max STR or STR>CRIT

    Skill Tree:

    Blade:
    Hardhit 10
    Astute10
    Sonic blade 5
    Trigger 10
    Spiral 5
    Tempest 10
    Sword mastery 10
    Quick Slash 5
    Sword Technique 10

    Magic:
    MpRecharge5-8

    Martial:
    Smash 1

    Survival:
    Natural Hp Reg 5
    Hp Up10

    Battle:
    Attack Up 5
    Smash5
    CritUp10

    Combo:
    1)Manual Astute into Smash>HH>Astute>Trigger>Tempest and follow up into combo again
    -All Consec
    2)Astute>HH>Trigger>Spiral>Tempest
    -All Consec, slight better dmg in cost of more mp

    **If u want dmg on each skill used, prolly around 4-6k per skill on 900+ atk

    #2
    Stat:
    FULL STR or STR>CRIT
    Skill Tree:
    Blade:
    HardHit5
    Astute5
    Trigger5
    Rampage1
    Sonic Blade5
    Spiral Air5
    Tempest 10
    Sword Mastery5
    Quick Slash5
    Sword Techniques10

    Magic:
    MpRecharge5
    Arrow5
    Javelin5
    Lance5
    Impact7

    Survival:
    Hpreg5
    HpUp10

    Battle skill:
    AtkUp5
    Smash5
    CritUp10

    Combo:
    1)Astute>Trig(save)>HH>Impact>Tempest(Smite)>Ramp(Smite)
    -Rest on consec,costs 200mp
    2)HH>Trig(save)>Astute>Impact>Tempest(Smite)>Ramp(smite)
    -Rest on Consec, costs 100mp

    **A tempest focused build, with my current gears, i can hit up to 14k on hit Tempest, 2.5-3.5k per tick as tested on Roga
     
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  11. Cella [Yurie ♥]

    Cella [Yurie ♥] Elite Member Elite Member

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    I never know tempest that strong.... But even Roga can run from tempest's swirl right?

    But if 1st hit of rampage hit, even the boss move 12m away all the rampage's skill will still hit...
     
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    Yes, Roga can run away from Tempest's swirl. Unless you are able to lock it down for Tempest's full duration.

    But still can be cut short when Roga dashes with its AoE and flinch you... I think.
     
  13. Neo Frame

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    That is a solid core skills, but for my suggestion, try on a diff char slot on ur currently skill set, compare the combo mp, total combo damage, and combo finish duration, divide by the duration, that is the damage u dealt per second. So u can compare it clearly.
     
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    Cella [Yurie ♥] Elite Member Elite Member

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    The point is... Compare with what? Tempest build?
     
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    Neo Frame Well-Known Member

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    Tempest vs non tempest.
    On 1H, tempest tick damage is increased because of 1H bonus, and its more advantageous as 1H have shield cannon to lock bosses on 1 spot.
    But for 2h idk if its practical or not.
     
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    For 2H's Tempest, wave attack dmg increased
     
  17. Cella [Yurie ♥]

    Cella [Yurie ♥] Elite Member Elite Member

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    Question : Is War Cry re
    Can you explain?
     
  18. Neo Frame

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    When u swing ur sword, or initial damage, for 2h thats the one increased
     
  19. Icevist

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    Suggest Combo base on your skills:
    Hardhit > War Cry(save) > Astute (consec) > Impact (consec) > Rampage (smite) > Trigger Slash(consec)

    Total Mp Cost: 1mp
    Hardhit -> Combo opener, 1mp cost
    War Cry -> Saver, saved 3mp to mp pool.
    Astute -> For the crit buff, -60%damage as save penalty, -20% as consec penalty, result -80%
    Impact -> Halves next skills mp cost, -40%damage as save penalty, -30% as consec penalty, result -70%
    Rampage -> Main Damage skill, -2.5mp by impact, used 2.5mp(round up to 3 by system) from mp pool, -20%damage as save penalty, +50%for smite, result 130% *Smite can be replaced by swift for faster animation speed*
    TriggerSlash -> Closer for smite.

    *This combo is very long and might be interrupted. Better to use it with tanker / breaker in party.
     
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  20. Cella [Yurie ♥]

    Cella [Yurie ♥] Elite Member Elite Member

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    Smithed rampage = deaddd (not the monster but the user!) ._.)/
     
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  21. Neo Frame

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    When Ur Rampage Miss
    Boss Roga,"Is this a new model of punching sandbag? Hooman make totally realistic doll nowadays"
    The trouble of usin Rampage
     
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