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Short range Sniper (Selfish build :() - Failed

Discussion in 'Hunter' started by Saphos, Apr 2, 2016.

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  1. Saphos

    Saphos Old Sword Nerd Elite Member

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    Allow me to apologize for discontinuing the Angelic Sniper build that Squidy loved to party with ^^

    I gave it up for this build, so yes, this build has its fair amount of value, but it's very selfish, so I never made this idea public :D

    This build has high evasion and does very good damage. Survivability is not as high as Angelic, but when I evaded all 5 consecutive hits in a row against Masked Warrior's Rampage, I fell in love with this build.

    Stats: DEX > LUK > STR

    Weapon: Boss War Bowgun <Pillar golem>
    Sub: Elemental arrow
    Armour: BB Garb <Roga> - Light remodel
    Add: Mole eye <Astol>
    Spec: DEX II <Ooze>

    With BB Garb + Pillar Golem xtal, you have Short range damage +12%, and since Bowgun users are usually within 8m range, I find it easier to take advantage of this 'short range mastery' rather than having to back out 8m+ to take advantage of Long range mastery.

    Skills:

    Shot tree
    Mobea shot lvl 1
    Snipe lvl 10
    Quick draw lvl 10

    Magic tree:
    MP charge lvl 1
    Impact lvl 7

    Survival tree:
    HP Boost lvl 10

    Battle tree:
    Smash lvl 10
    CRT-Up lvl 10
    Dodge-Up lvl 10

    Dual sword tree:
    Reflex lvl 10

    Combos:
    Mp-saver: Mobea > Impact (Save) > Snipe (Smite) > Reflex (Consec)
    Damage: Impact > Snipe (Smite) > Reflex

    Reflex only last 10 secs when not used with dual sword, so it is needed to be recast frequently. Luckily it is a very fast cast, so using it as combo closer is perfect.

    With no LUK right now, no kidding, I managed to pull decent evasion as is. Once we start adding more LUK as second stat, the evasion rate will start to shine.

    And later on, when SP allows for it, you can add Drop-rate-Up to further increase you loot, so this is really a very selfish build ^^
     
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    Nice build with Reflex. ^^
    Just pointing out, how would this stats be done: DEX > LUK > CRT if we can only select either luck or critical?
    Is the CRT referring to use full crit gears (c999's)?
    And wouldn't Agility be better than Luck stat for evasion & dodge?
     
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    Saphos Old Sword Nerd Elite Member

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    I realised that after I posted. Removed now ^^ Third stat will be tough to figure out for this build :(

    AGI adds to dodge, which is a good consideration for third stat, but I could also go STR to add stability and make up for c-rate loss in c-dog bonus...

    Since dodge and evasion are calculated separately, I'm only aiming for high evasion and not dodge.
     
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    Great build! I accidentally chose luck as my secondary stat when I was a newby and I never bothered remaking so I'll definitely be trying this build out :D
     
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    I'm interested on seeing it in action, but I really think this build could go DEX > AGI > CRT. A close range sniper which always hits due to high crit and almost never gets hit due to high base Flee stat by AGI, it'd also get your ASPD high (Proration-wise) and a slight boost of CSPD. If the increase on evading with bowguns is lower with AGI than with LUK then the DEX > LUK version is correct. Also adding Light Armor Mastery Lv10 should boost it up a bunch, and if you prefer critical damage than critical rate (referring to choosing STR over CRT), then Accuracy Lv10 could help the chance of landing a crit hit vs. high evasion (not dodge) bosses.
     
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    Id say get atleast 40-60vit for more survival, the eva is good but if ur hp is low ud be praying it evaded more, i think u have around the same amount of eva as my 2h but sometimes its a pain, eva doesn't work on fatal dmg but it does with fractional i think, i can evade something of violaccoons when stunned(its a small circle aoe claw atk) i havnt really farmed it much to know if that is its fractional skill but in combo or out of combo eva is a decent defence, with more hp u could add sanctuary but it's only worth it if ur hp is over 10x of most of bosses dmg, (sanctuary is 95% dmg reduction if ur hp is 10x the enemies dmg but doesnt work with fatals or fractionals) as for the accuracy skill its not needed as it only increases HIT and nothing to the crit side, plus ud have alot of HIT already through dex, as for luk id say it wont be needed especially if ur planning to only use somewhere below 100points it would be too small to notice a change, plus i like building on things that are there, u cant really see the benefits of luk(other than common and uncommon drops) if u evaded 3times more in a round but evaded 3times less the next etc then luk isnt worth it imo, but if u add vit u can see the changes plus it will be more survival than what luk offers plus 100vit at 90 with hp up rank 10 and roga in armour would give u 6518hp, if u start to add vit at lvl 90 and hit 100vit at lvl 140 ur hp will be 8966, imo that is definitely more survival than what luk has to offer, but aside from that its a nice build:) being sorta similar to my 2h i already know the joy u get when u see those evades on something that isnt meant to;)
     
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    So either str or vit as second stat
     
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    Saphos Old Sword Nerd Elite Member

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    Thank you for this. It's uncommon for @BK. to share so much info ^^ Thank you ^^
     
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    Hehe:p but its just what i would do
     
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    Saphos Old Sword Nerd Elite Member

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    Based on @Mugami's info, dodge is rolled against target's hit, whichever is higher wins. Knowing that, Asobimo can program any unreal amount of hit to any boss and render dodge useless. That's essentially why I chose the LUK / evade path as only evasion% grants you a reliable / consistent evasion chance ^^

    Plus, I changed to a all silver / blue outfit to match the evasion animation :p
     
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    :D well done mate... (So another secret reveal about SR Damage )
    :rolleyes::rolleyes: would be nice if combine with Phy Pierce
     
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    With the new revolver u could get ur close range DMG up to 16%
     
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    Yes but it only work for new bosses -as long as they don't remake the old bosses stat- and it really fun to look some mobs miss a lot of attack :D
     
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    Aside of def/mdef reduction, what is the differences of level 1, level 5, and level 10 refex?
     
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    Duration. Lvl 10 with DS last 10 minutes, otherwise, 10 secs,

    I dunno the lvl 1 duration off the top of my head ^^
     
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    But, you are not DW. Don't u think leave it at level 1 is better?
     
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    Saphos Old Sword Nerd Elite Member

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    I'm not sure if lvl 10 gives a higher evade boost as there is no info. I suspect with the usual-troll mechanism from Asobimo, with a 90% reduction in def and mdef, I hope the evade boost will be higher. So I put it at lvl 10.
     
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    @Precaria
    I read in your thread you plan to max out light armor mastery in the future. My question is does reflex's effect stack with light armor mastery's effect, or it will overide it?

    My assumption right now is relex boosts evasion rate to the highest possible number during its activation and will overide evasion boost from other skills.
     
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    Light Armor Mastery + Reflex should stack. Luckily I have a free slot for test purposes right now. I'll check out if Reflex overrides the mastery or not, I'll check if it's level increases effectiveness or not, and I'll an check if there's a difference in the eva gained while holding other weapons vs dual wielding.
     
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    Reflex does stack, it also increases Eva by 1% per rank and also 1min per rank, with other weapons its still 1% per rank but i think it only adds 1sec per rank if not dw, cmiiw anyone
     

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