End of Sneak finale combo?

Hey guys! With the maintenance coming and the release of the 4th tier Dual weild skills. I guess this is the end of the sneak finale combo for mages. RIP

 

Hopefully its not the entire 1600 aggro of finale. Maybe they will just make a small part possibly the aggro per second unpreventable by sneak which due to some bug is being hidden as well.

If its the entire 1600 aggro I will be deleting both my mages. I had enough of suzuki and his surprise sneak attack nerf shenanigans. First they make it useless for bow now they make it useless for mage too?

Everyone needs to spam them asking for free reset if that happens.

 

If sneak can not hide finale agrro,........ I cant imagine. Maybe like this?

 

MMOs are like cheese. they get better with age. however, if not handled properly, they rot.

 

why is it useless for bow?

 

It does not work for either cf or decoy shot which are 2 main skills used by bow. Aside from those main skills all it can do is hide snipe and auto attacks from player which is not even that big of an aggro issue.

 

I'll cling to that "While Casting" part.

 

Tbh I am really hoping for a free reset but sadly it is not mentioned in the news at the official toram site. I don't have a sneak finale character to begin and I use nega aggro gears anyway but I bet most of the finale users has sneak attack skill. This is a nightmare if it is totally useless now on finale.

 

All we can do is hope for now.

 

Well i think its just per tick aggro which is 100/tick fortunately

 

I have sneak I just don't use it often. I have it as a star gem. I have -22% aggro and generally just pace myself. I don't spam impact>finale often. If the boss isn't too unpredictable or has too many aoe's I use a longer combo that has sneak about once or twice per run.

 

Wouldn't it be that the decoy just eats up the saves from sneak? Or sneak cannot hide decoy shots?

 

Its much more complicated but I guess I can tell now.
Earlier decoy shot both the cast and the shots could be hidden by sneak in boss maps while it would skip sneak on overworld map (vs miniboss/mob)
Now they changed it so that it skips sneak on both maps. I know decoy can eat up the sneak counters very quickly but it still worked regardless.
A little bit later they also "fixed" the generation of self buffer skills (Which includes the crossfire charge, also kairiki which is commonly used as well by bow user). This fix made the infamous 0 aggro trick impossible to do. Essentially sneak would not directly hide their aggro but indirectly it helped remove the aggro of these skills.
Both of these changes were made in secret without a bug report during maintenance which has turned me away from posting aggro related info for now.

 

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Plot twist:

That 6 orb cost for book of oblivion (which is originally cost 30 orbs) a few weeks ago.....

......... was given for that......

If you used it already then thats it... no more discounted book of oblivion

 

oh i see, that's why when i'm trying to use sneak then cf charge, the aggro still goes with me in any pt i join in or when i'm running with mercs only, thanks for the info.

 

Revival of tank roles?

 

another plot twist:
the book of oblivion is given to this xmas stocking event (100th reward)

 

The adjustment to how sneak attack affects finale is reported as a bug fix, so it should not affect how sneak attack and finale were set up to work. Sneak attack blocks aggro from an attack. Finale was set up to generate a little aggro during the casting and a lot of aggro from the attack itself. Because of this, sneak attack should always block a majority of the aggro from finale. Any bug fix that is applied should not affect the overall effectiveness of using sneak attack to maintain relatively low aggro when using finale.

 

Well I use bloom of peace staff as main weapon for mage and my char never gets aggro, no matter how many times I spam finale.

 

t̶h̶e̶ ̶a̶g̶g̶r̶o̶ ̶(̶3̶0̶0̶+̶)̶ ̶d̶u̶r̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶3̶ ̶s̶e̶c̶o̶n̶d̶ ̶c̶a̶s̶t̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶c̶a̶n̶t̶ ̶b̶e̶ ̶r̶e̶m̶o̶v̶e̶d̶ ̶b̶y̶ ̶a̶n̶y̶ ̶m̶e̶a̶n̶s̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶-̶%̶ ̶a̶g̶g̶r̶o̶,̶b̶l̶o̶o̶m̶ ̶o̶f̶ ̶p̶e̶a̶c̶e̶ ̶r̶e̶m̶o̶v̶e̶s̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶f̶i̶r̶s̶t̶ ̶1̶6̶0̶0̶ ̶m̶p̶ ̶a̶g̶g̶r̶o̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶c̶a̶m̶e̶ ̶f̶r̶o̶m̶ ̶u̶s̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶k̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶i̶t̶s̶e̶l̶f̶ ̶s̶o̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶s̶t̶i̶l̶l̶ ̶g̶e̶t̶ ̶a̶g̶g̶r̶o̶ ̶n̶o̶ ̶m̶a̶t̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶w̶h̶a̶t̶.̶

hahaa,i hate playing tank tbh,especially when tanking for finale people,i prefer being a dumb dps sitting in the back spamming and making other tanks suffers more *sarcastic innocent smile*

with each use of finale,it generated an instant 1600mp +300mp from casting and some more from hitting after (2200+?) which can completely out-aggroed any tank easily in 5 seconds unless they are in guardian range.