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BlackSmith stat/s

Discussion in 'Production Class' started by megan8, Jun 4, 2019.

  1. megan8

    megan8 Well-Known Member

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    I have a blacksmith but because its a smith it doesn't have any atk skills so its hard to lvl it, what stat should i put on it? (btw its a katana or halbeard user (i forgot which one)
     
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    Barzeft It is better to be silent instead of hurtful Elite Member

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    Depends on what the smith character's purpose is. Is it a crafter or refiner/stat adder? If crafter then what do you plan to craft with it? Refiner/stat adder needs 255 Tec, Armor crafter needs 250 Vit, 2h crafter needs 250 Str, Bowgun crafter needs 250 Dex, Staff crafter needs 250 Int, Knuckles crafter needs 250 Agi, Halberd crafter needs 240 Str rest in Agi, Katana crafter needs 240 Dex rest in Agi, Magic Device crafter needs 240 Int rest Agi and 1h/Bow crafter needs 240 Dex/Str with rest your stat points in the other one. 1h is better to have 240 Str rest Dex and Bow is better to have 240 Dex rest Str.
     
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    megan8 Well-Known Member

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    my smith would craft anything and everything but not for myself, i sell everything i make unless its rly good like the ice staff frigus that i made once or a lil empress equip.
     
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    What does allocating 10 pts from 250 (10/240) do? What is the benefit on TEC for crafters? Higher success rate?
     
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    Barzeft It is better to be silent instead of hurtful Elite Member

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    Won't be a decent smith since Toram's design makes it to where different stats affect different gear so only the highest level recipes available will be even semi decent.
    It's just in case the potential gain for secondary weapons is only affected by sets of 20 from each individual stat instead of being able to get 1 pot from 15 Dex and 5 Str on a bow for example. Yes, Tec increases success rate and Item difficulty making it easier to craft higher level gear.
     
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    megan8 Well-Known Member

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    are you sure? can i get a 2nd opinion on this pls.
     
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    Barzeft It is better to be silent instead of hurtful Elite Member

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    Yes, I'm sure because I wanted to do the same thing as you when I first started as well as make a character with even stat points in all stats but quickly learned from gameplay and other people here that both are bad ideas. I'm not saying you can't do it just letting you know it won't do very good profit wise.
     
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    Lil☆Neko Well-Known Member

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    For the following gears, these stats are required to gain one additional potential.
    OHS & BOW: (STR + DEX) / 20
    THS: STR / 10
    HALBERD: (STR + AGI) / 20
    BOWGUN: DEX / 10
    KATANA: (DEX + AGI) / 20
    KNUCKLES: AGI / 10
    MAGIC DEVICE: (INT + AGI) / 20
    STAFF: INT / 10
    ARMOR: VIT / 10

    For reference FC18 needs 63 potential to stat with 100%, and other standards like A7CDCD18, and A7CCC18 need 50 and 55 potential to stat 100% success rate, so if you can't reach these potential thresholds, no one will buy your gear. 240 ATK Fluck Sword with 45 potential? Maybe like 750-1.5m and someone will gamble a stat on it - it's likely no one will buy that shit. 240 ATK Fluck Sword? If you're patient it can sell for over 10m depending on the buyer.

    The best thing to do is either reset stats or delete the character. It's as bad as Suzuki P's sense of game balance. #buff_knux

    If you want a "live example" check my signature - I have 4 different blacksmiths for crafting different gear.
     
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    So ideally, a proper craft character would have 250 pts. on their allocated attribute, with the rest spent on LUK? What does LUK do for synthesis?
     
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    LUK is useless for anything other than farming and refining B to S. Don't use it to craft.

    I forgot to mention before, but:
    - 2 TEC gives 1 difficulty bonus
    - 6 DEX gives 1 difficulty bonus
    - 10 STR gives 1 bonus success rate
    Success rate = 10 + crafting_proficiency + (TEC / 2) + (DEX / 6) - recipe_difficulty + (STR / 10)
     
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    Hmm, is there a cap on additional potential or no? OHS for example, one must must allocate all their points to STR and DEX? So at 185, something like 240STR, 240 DEX, with 7 leftover on TEC perhaps?
     
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    You could do that, or you could do 250STR/250DEX when level cap allows that to get the full +25 potential from the stats. doing 250STR/250DEX is probably better.
     
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    so if i wanna refine everything and craft everything what stat should i use? @LilFoxie
    ps thx for all the help without unhelpful info.
     
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    If refine and craft only in a single char then best full tec. Tec being essential for 0-B refine and allows to craft everything much earlier without having to raise prof. A full tech char also helps with statting/alchemy.

    Only downside is crafted equips won't have much pot. Secondary stat could help some.
     
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    You do realize Foxie told you the exact same thing I did just added extra info letting you know why it will and will not sell along with adding why the stat point allocation matters in a simpler way. For refining you need 255 Tec for 0-B but one character can not effectively craft everything.

    p.s. using black text for this thread and stat formula thread because Foxie says red is hard for her to read.
     
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    255 TEC > 232 STR (current max) makes you... p52 halb, p64 ths, p53 fluck sword, p52 emp bow and ohs
    252 TEC > 232 DEX makes you p52 ktn (p53 crystal lamina), p64 bowgun, p52 bow, p52/53 ohs
    255 TEC > 232 INT makes you p64 staff, p52 mdev
    255 TEC > 232 AGI makes you p64 knuck, p53 ktn (lamina), p 52 halb (venena)
    255 TEC > 232 VIT makes you p63 sold arm, p64 venena arm.

    Making armor is a very hard business, aside from the fact that p63 is enough for fc18 (too bad your slotted ones will be below p63 so less people will buy).
    p52 for ktn, ohs and bow is not enough to do a7ccc18 with 100% success rate (p55 required). p64 bowgun is usable but who the fuck uses bowgun.
    knuckles is knuckles (crap) so dont go for agi.
    p64 staff is not the best but usable same with the mdevice. i believe im7i14 requires p69 for 100% stat.
    the best option is definitely doing 255 TEC > 232 STR at cap lv185 because p64 THS and p52 halb can both fit a7cd7cd18 (next cap 190 gives you +10 str for 240 str giving you p53 halb and p65 ths, which is enough for a7cd7cd19 on halb min 53 probably)

    This way, by doing TEC>STR, you can "craft all weapons", and still have 2 weapons that other people may still want to buy cuz they have decent enough potential. Then again, many players are in the dark about statting so they dont know the min pot for weapon..... they just look for pot60++

    IF you dont wanna refine or stat tho, go 250 DEX>237 STR so your bows and OHS are also good. P53 a7ccc18 with ktn is still 90+% so people may want to gamble it. Your MD, Staff and nux will be crap potential, but that's fine because suzuki peepee is too dumb to see that finale is crap and nux is too ohpee for a buff.
     
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    well if you did say the sme thing then i didn't understand you at all while i understood foxie completely
     
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    I did but didn't include why the stats matter for potential gain or gear customization and instead just told you stat setup to choose for max potential for each crafting class in paragraph format instead of list format.
     
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