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Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by vanilla_, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. vanilla_

    vanilla_ Well-Known Member

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    Since days ago, Asobimo started to banned account really furiously. The one that getting banned usually mod or bot account.

    That being said, some of my friend getting banned for no exact reason. I mean, how could an account that hasn't been logged in for month could getting banned? Never used mod nor bot. Getting banned over some report because he sometimes disconnected for poor internet and considered using mod?

    So i want to ask some simple question, it was only been weeks since Asobimo banned over 1k account and now they banned over 2k account. How did they accurately banned the account? Or they just banned people based on the report recieved?

    This thread was not me trying to blame or being impolite, but i just want some clear answer regarding that matter.
     
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  2. Quit toram

    Quit toram Left. Elite Member

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    This forum is unofficial, it's unlikely that there are any Asobimo employees here. So, we don't know.
     
  3. vanilla_

    vanilla_ Well-Known Member

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    That also be true, just sad. Now my other friend wouldn't even logged in because of fear of getting reported blindly by those who have been banned already and wanted some revenge.
     
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    gabie Well-Known Member

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    i got banned in iruna even without playing for more than 1 month, so i think asobimo inst 100% accurate when banning.
    before i logged in yesterday after 2 weeks without playin i was with the same fear
     
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  5. Esnar Xeon Din Eiji

    Esnar Xeon Din Eiji Well-Known Member

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    Their system detection seems based on amount of disconnected in certain intervals, if you mostly disconnected in short interval of time, the system seems do autobanned. MAYBE
    Its still vague too...
    And this happen to a person who do refund orb, the system also autobanned targets. So considering from the characteristic of the mod that always Disconnected in short time period (mostly 2-4 min get disconnected), the autobanned seems work to slam people with a lot of disconnection of network, wanna cheat/mod/no if you got disconnected so much in short period, the system will slam you off.
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    What thing that caused you banned?
    1. Deliberately hire a mod users through public chat such Shout, say, world chat
    2. Has bad attitude
    3. Using Auto Task/click/attend application
    4. Triggering Systems auto banned (deliberately or no)
    5. Using application that downloaded not from official site [googleplay,appstore,etc] Note: not all application that downloaded from other source than googleplay is a mod. Example: Qooapp
    [A word above is (1~5) is just my opinion]
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    System Auto Banned Script [SABS]
    Is a system that activated as Blocker of activity if some activity has Triggered the system. This System isnt telling GM/staff about the Block that Applied to a account. So GM/Staff didnt know you getting Banned until you send Inquiries to them. This system is actually exist, you can getting Banned anytime by triggering the systems.
     
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  6. Rizer phoenix

    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    In short..
    I learned if u have bad connection for sometime..dont play..no matter how much u want to..
    Noted n understood •-•)
     
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  7. Esnar Xeon Din Eiji

    Esnar Xeon Din Eiji Well-Known Member

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    I sugest people to close app if getting disconnected more than 2 times (max 3 for safe reason) this matter still vague is they are really add such system detection or no, maybe around 6 times getting DC in fixed interval of time = Autobanned. So for people who have bad connection at the time of play, better stop first until internet connection stable. I have investigating what caused this furious Ban by look peoples Screenshot in facebook, i saw 3 people getting banned during game time and has "reconnecting message" in the chat bar, 3 of them claim didnt using mod or hire mod deliberately. Considering the situation, Maybe im right, they adding system detection based of Disconnection of Network in fixed Intervals. If so, then it gonna be problem to people who has bad connection all the time...
     
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  8. vanilla_

    vanilla_ Well-Known Member

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    Well first, thanks for the absurd information xD
    But now the one that has been banned wont get their account back, its permanent banned to add to the information. Asobimo wont listen to any excuse nor will check it.
    Be carefull for the one with slow internet. Have a nice day
     
  9. Esnar Xeon Din Eiji

    Esnar Xeon Din Eiji Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean absurd? >:c ima bite you
    And yes becareful with ur connection :3
     
  10. Rizer phoenix

    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    •-•) wish l knew that before..
    Will be careful now •-•)
    Knew that dc was a devil >:’3
    Thou l do hope they consider ‘(genuine)bad net connection’ too :v
    Not everyone is mod..n can have bad net connection day too ya know?
     
  11. Esnar Xeon Din Eiji

    Esnar Xeon Din Eiji Well-Known Member

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    Bimo mad now, their games is attacked and they got rage, if you are a human you know what happen to a mad human. Crazy barbarian mode = ON
     
  12. Rizer phoenix

    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    This legit gave me image of that ‘small n smile-y’ bimo transforming like maton ( with shinning eyes) n slashing its ‘sword of auto-ban’ on us...
     
  13. Spina!!

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    I hope they do something to those who use mod without DC (iOS users) too.
     
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  14. vanilla_

    vanilla_ Well-Known Member

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    Well it is, the same like Asobimo saying "those player without good internet shall not play my game" kind of thing. If it is true, i'll just laughing here with my potato phone and connection.
     
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    Well there will always be accounts of people being unfairly banned, because the one who created the auto detector is human and may have overlooked something. Though if they look for just disconnections then there would be many oversights in the design of the autobanning software.

    Personally I feel there should be variable checks to see if anything is vastly different than what the code intended. Such as seeing if lines of code or local variables are altered from the global, or checking to see if lines of code have been omitted or added. It's hard to make an automated system to check if people are cheating because people will always find new ways to cheat. But, I personally think keeping a full backup of the original code and checking for inconsistencies between them would be better than this.

    Though I do know that this will take up a lot of memory to do and time to do.
     
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  16. Rizer phoenix

    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    Exactly, otherwise anyone who disconnects for whatever reason, will be banned ._.)
    ..hell l fear the ‘Great DC’ now •-•; )

    Oh yeah!
    Dc as in ..dc-dc or the ‘disconnected...reconnecting..’ one..?
    Or..both •-•)?
     
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    Tried on a dummy account disconnecting and reconnecting my Wifi for like 20 times and my dummy isnt banned, I dunno what triggers it tho
     
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  18. vanilla_

    vanilla_ Well-Known Member

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    so it still remain unclear i guess? i want to logged in...
    My friend lost account with full 2 slotted equipement. I just don't want the same thing happend to my account as well. Rip
     
  19. Rizer phoenix

    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    I dont think it would be that instant xD
    Might take a few days or so~
    Lets see •-•)
     
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    How can IOS mod if they’re unable to download apks? I thought All modders were Droids:confused:
     

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