Self Cast Buffs in a Combo, Yay or Nay.

I have noticed a surge of combos are integrating long duration self cast buffs like Reflex, Flash Blast and War Cry.

For me, it's a waste of CP because, you can use them individually until duration ends or next match begins.
100 mp/200 mp isnt a big thing if it means you survive more, or deal damage more.

Yes it's a good combo filler but you could make use of those slots for better combos.

Just my thoughts. what's yours

 

Reason why buff skill is a good filler is it doesnt reduce your nxt damaging skill due to damage drop off.

Example Combo is Astute>Trigger Save>Reflex Cons>Flash Blast Cons>Charging Slash Smite>Shadow Step Cons
Damage Drop Off MAX is @250 or 300%? (Lets say 300%)
Applying that to the Example Combo:
Assuming you already cap it by doing normal attacks
Astute gains max damage which is 300%>Trigger gains 275%>Reflex and Flash Blast doesnt reduce the dmge drop off due to you never land a same attribute hit on the target>Charging slash gains 250%>Shadow Step Cons.

So basically the first 3hits you made will always provide you a higher damage.

As per my DW Tempest Combo
Astute>SS Save>Twin Slash Smite>Impact Cons>Tempest Smite>HH Cons
Astute Gains Max damage 300%>SS none>Twin Slash 275%>Impact increase your damage drop off by 25%>Tempest gains 300%>HH Cons 275%
As you can see on this vid i have 3 high damaging physical skill and they are all hitting mostly 10k+
(You notice why twin is always higher even @90% power is due to its Cdmge bonus)


I hope you guys can get my explanation.

 

But Shadow Step is considered more of an Active Damage Skill than a Buff. so would that count? It still deals damage when you solo cast it because it's like a forced evasion attack. I'm talking about buffs like War Cry, Reflex, Flash Blast.

 

shadow step is a utility skill or can be consider as a buff due to crit+ampr. it just forces your DW to do unsheathe attack if it is your closer combo meaning its an additional DPS
that's why sometimes if you have good proration the unsheathe attack can deal high damage.

Reason why i have this SS as save is to double buff twin slash Crit since DW have abit low crit rate+to pull double smited saver combo.

 

Also i think you use Astute>Twin Smite>SS cons right? so basically you can deal 30k+ Max damage! since your DW is balance.

For a full dex unsheathe attack (First attack/Evasion attack have lower damage compared to balance.)

 

While I agree, it depends on whether you can afford not to cast the buff.

Adding reflex / flash blast in non-DW, you have to spam cast it to last.

Same goes for Bless. And Sanctuary. In Sanctuary's case, it last 20-30 secs, but target moves away, I'll recast ^^.

I just came to a different conclusion, reflex + flash is not worth for most other classes, as you will have to spam cast the 2 together to produce decent result, wasting time in a combo to buff rather than do damage, but if the user don't rebuff, there is going to be no counter attacks from Blast. Conclusion: free class system doesn't mean throw everything on one character and try to be the Best-breed ^^

 

using buffs with save or consecutive saves lots of mp if you use many buffs (or use them often).
buffs dissappear when you switch screens, this includes entering boss battles.

i like to use Bless as consecutive combo after all my skills. this way i have constant regeneration for no extra cost. (it just takes 1 more second of animation time)

 

It just comes down to how valuable1mp bar is to u personally and how mp efficient ur char is for DW casting reflex and flash blast out of combo is more logical because mp isn't as difficult to get for them but on the other hand non dw classes cant afford to cast reflex every 10sec and maintain any level of dmg so we compromise and deal dmg and cast buff...in a combo...war cry on the other hand should never be in a combo, to slow and expensive

 

i want ask makoi, is it better we doing normal attack first for proration or just spamming skill repeatedly?

 

Do normals if you want to increase your combo dmge.

 

I agree with this.

But others prefer to use all their CP's in one combo only (long combos), so they use those skills as fillers to prevent damage drop off or to save MP.