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Str & cmdg4% or dex & cmdg4% for bow user?

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Kyoru, Mar 28, 2016.

  1. Kyoru

    Kyoru Member

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    Just wanna ask this question... Since snipe always crits when using a bow, would it be better to increase the critical damage more (str&cmdg4%) or increase atk and critical damage (dex&cdmg4%)? Will snipe still end up dealing the same amount of damage when using either of these stats? Thank you in advance. (^o^)
     
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    Precaria Precariø ♂ Retired IG Super Likable Elite Member Wiki Contributor

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    If you're still full dex do DEX %, if you split it already on a DEX > STR ratio do ATK %, but do not do C.DMG %. Make it flat. C.DMG +9. And don't do STR % either because that's your secondary stat, the % won't benefit you enough yet.
     
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  3. Kyoru

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    Ohh okie, thank you! (^O^)
     
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  4. king77

    king77 Well-Known Member

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    better use flat crit dmg madame
     
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  5. Toramwasmyidea

    Toramwasmyidea im probably high right now Elite Member

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    get either atk%4 critdamage+9, or dex%4 critdamage+9. I'm ratio Str Dex so using crit%4 critdamage+8 atm
     
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  6. Kyoru

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    Oh i see, thank guys (^.^)
    Mmmm its gonna be hard to find a bow with dex4% and cdmg+9 xD
    Goodluck to me haha
     
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    can someone explain why cdmg flat is better than % ty
     
  8. TheXIIIthGuy

    TheXIIIthGuy Bye bye Elite Member

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    Base crit dmg is 150%. At lvl 95, you have only 5 STR (should you go full DEX), so you have 1% extra.
    151 + 9 = 160
    151*1.04 = 157.04
     
  9. charlesclaro

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    but according to the crit formula, flat crit dmg is real crit damage and not in the base crit dmg. it says that cdmg % is added in the total dmg, also not in the base crit dmg. I'm thinking that cdmg +9 = 10k crit + 9 dmg and cdmg 4% = 10k + 4% of 10k dmg making it a total of 10400 crit damage. idk, I'm confused

    here's the link of the crit formula
    http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/critical-formula.3585/
     
  10. TheXIIIthGuy

    TheXIIIthGuy Bye bye Elite Member

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    The formula proves my point.
    Let's use it again, shall we:
    (150 + A)*B + C)/100
    A: (stat points in STR)/5
    B: The amount of Cdmg% from equips and skills such as Crit Up
    C: Amount added by flat Cdmg from equips
    Suppose we're using Crit Up at max and 5 points in STR.
    A = 5/5 = 1
    Case X: We use a Cdmg +4% equip
    B = 1 + 0.05 (from Crit Up) + 0.04 (from equip) = 1.09
    C = 0 (no flat Cdmg equip)
    Total: ((150 + 1)*1.09+0)/100 = 1.6459
    That is your multiplier. Crit damage is calculated like this: (normal damage)*(crit damage multipler)
    Suppose we do 10k on normal damage (no stability shenanigans).
    Your crit damage is 10000*1.6459 = 16459

    Case Y: now with a Cdmg +9 equip
    B = 1 + 0.05 = 1.05 (no Cdmg% equip, so only Crit Up)
    C = 9 (from equip)
    Total: ((150 +1)*1.05 +9)/100 = 1.6755
    Again, with 10k normal damage: 10000*1.6755 = 16755
    The difference 16755 - 16459 = 296
    You do 296 more dmg when you crit with Cdmg +9 than with Cdmg +4%.

    Now with the new cap and all, my point is most likely moot XD
    But I hope it helps you understand how the formula works.
     
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  11. Alzarith

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    By the way umm
    Yeah the "Bows always crit with snipe" was a bug, it's been fixed already.
     

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