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WANNA BE LIKE KIRITO? THIS GUIDE'S FOR YOU! (Cypherian's Revamped Maximized AMPR Dual Wield Build)

Discussion in 'Dual Wield' started by Cypherian, Jul 26, 2016.

  1. Groot

    Groot ┐('~`;)┌ Elite Member

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    thats exactly what i said in my first comment -.- *and i dont think it prorates 16 times maybe 2 at most... 1 for initial and 1 for overall ticks
     
  2. BK

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    Attacks that do multiple hits only counts as 1point in protation tho mobs/bosses etc have different resistances and the number of autos or skills it takes to either reach the highest or lowest, like c, commander it takes 4autos/skills to reach the lowest or highest dmg u can do and then stability comes in after
     
  3. Alaerele

    Alaerele Well-Known Member

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    Finally! i can be like Kirito!
     
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  4. TheXIIIthGuy

    TheXIIIthGuy Bye bye Elite Member

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    Yeah, I was just trying to explain him how it works. Guess that's also a big fail.
     
  5. Cypherian

    Cypherian Dual Doggo! Bork bork! Super Likable Elite Member

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    The reason i said Spinning Slash Prorates more depending on the number of hits is because its implementation is different from tempest and storm, which sucks in the enemy, different from spinning Slash which knocks back the enemy.
    It prorates more, based on my observation when the boss is hit with the full 15 ticks rather than a part of it. Since unlike storm and Tempest which fluctuate in damage throughout the ticks, spinning slash doesnt. Although you can see fluctuations in sets of 5, it is calculated at the start of the skill, not through out the skill.

    I have tried and tested this multiple times. Seeing the difference of getting hit by the initial hit only, initial hit + few ticks, initial + half of the ticks and initial + all of the ticks. Damage after doing so increases as the number of ticks hit increases.
     
  6. Golbez

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    then maybe you should stop explaining things when u dont even understand ? :rolleyes:
    u even said "And that's exactly what it is: it prorates 16 times."

    me, starlord and BK. believe in the same thing, it doesnt prorates 16x , i believe it only prorate 1x just like storm/tempest, or like starlord said maybe 2 at most, because spinning slash have initial hit, and DoT ticks.
     
  7. Cypherian

    Cypherian Dual Doggo! Bork bork! Super Likable Elite Member

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    Can we not fight in my thread again. I dont want to get my thread locked again
     
  8. Bedsheet

    Bedsheet Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Elite Member

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    Nice guide, Cyph :'D
     
  9. Caithe

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    hmm, for multi-hits skill, i also believe it only prorate 1 time.
     
  10. Toketsu Hikari

    Toketsu Hikari Well-Known Member

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    Simple solution on debate of proration would be to just test it out yourself to see how it works or if you like how the build works or read more on comments regarding to proration. (You'd probably think - oh boy that's a lot of work and time consuming lol. You'll eventually have to apply what you read and have to test it out yourself if you like it or not. What you read on here may or may not be true or may not meet your expectations. When unsure of the outcome and ur doubting others comments, observing it urself solves that problem. ^^ I usually just use a character - that isn't my main as a test dummy.)

    Interesting build btw @Cypherian xD =].
     
  11. Rona

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    I want that Auto Attack Cancellation trick so badly :D
     
  12. -bRyAn-

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    I agree if u have doubts/complaints just test it by urself. But im so lazy to do it so i will believe whats cyps description about its proration.

    I made a 2nd reply coz cant edit the 1st rep :p ;)
     
  14. TheXIIIthGuy

    TheXIIIthGuy Bye bye Elite Member

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    Sorry Cyph. While I certainly won't fight, I definitely won't let this one slide.

    Yeah, I made a mistake. I even acknowledged it. And while I certainly have to get better on that front, you sir need to learn a thing or two about respect.
    I try to help with my knowledge (wrong and limited of course), and you're just telling me to shut the hell up with that first sentence. That isn't very nice, if you ask me.
    Now, because I respect Cyph and his request, if you want to keep talking about it, we'll set up a private conversation, nice and clean.
     
  15. Golbez

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    so saying this "Yeah, I was just trying to explain him how it works. Guess that's also a big fail." without directly quote me makes u know about respect ?
    youre just indirectly telling me that im too dumb too understand. u expected a respect after u said that? thats unfair.

    i already know what i want to know, so theres no need for private conversation.

    edit : not gonna reply anymore, thank you ;)
     
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  16. TheXIIIthGuy

    TheXIIIthGuy Bye bye Elite Member

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    You must have misunderstood my point, and I apologize for making it sound wrong.
    I was blaming myself for not being able to explain what I knew (which was wrong) to you. You show a good level of understanding in the matter and I wasn't questioning it, just bashing myself for being a bad "teacher", so to speak.

    Now, sorry if I sound rude with this, but can we please file this as a misunderstanding and move on?
     
  17. Dark_sniper

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    Really sorry to ask a stupid question. But I am having trouble with survival skills. Do I need to make HP Boost lvl 10 and safe rest lvl 5 and fighter high lvl 1?
     
  18. Cypherian

    Cypherian Dual Doggo! Bork bork! Super Likable Elite Member

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    Not really, but since skills need to be level 5 to get the next skill, you get lvl 5 safe rest, and max HP Boost gives around 1k HP. Whic is a huge help
     
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  19. Mashiro

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    Do u learn Mp Boost?? Warrior Bangle only +100mp
     
  20. Cypherian

    Cypherian Dual Doggo! Bork bork! Super Likable Elite Member

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    Warrior Bangle gives no MP, only 100 HP.
    I didnt get MP boost. Only use MP xtals and Magic Scarf for MP.
     

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