My opinions on PVP

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One of the big draws for me to originally download and try out this game was that there was no pvp. It's also the main reason I stopped playing other games such as O&C. I despise pvp and the general adolescent behavior that usually follows it. Right now Toram is a rare gem, it's one of the few pure pve games on the mobile market that's actually really good to play. Adding pvp would just cheapen this game, and make it like so many other games that are already out there. Why ruin a good thing? If it had pvp I would have never downloaded it in the first place, I'm sure I am not the only one who would have just passed it over either.

 

There will be a huge unfairness in toram if pvp exist... just saying. one thing for sure, any other classes beside warrior is doomed. try to imagine it yourself if you don't believe me...

 

pretty sure my brawler can take ur warrior, it's just gonna take a VERY long time for me to do it lmao
sorry for sidetracking @l-23,
just had to XD

 

that's confident. and yes, i believe you can as i know that brawler's sonic wave is faster than warrior's sonic blade. i'm pretty sure within that moment you can close in and use any skill to finish me, unless the skill missed. But i can't say the same for archer or, especially, mage... once again, just saying.

 

As a 2h I can think of 100 ways both a Mage, and an archer could take me down. Don't underestimate any class.

 

I think you guys may have skimmed thru and missed this point. L is not condemning PVP but suggesting PVP happens veryuch later.
I'm keen on PVP myself (of devs can implement a safe way of PVP), But now may not be the time I guess?

 

They should have added that when they first introduce/release the game. Adding that pvp content in 1-2years? I dont know if there are still players playing it (maybe there are few left). Just my opinion.

 

This is a very fickle debate that has been around since Toram was first released. I am neither for or against pvp, however...

I do not see Asmobino implementing any sort of pvp interaction. I just don't see it happening. The game, as stated, is literally brand new. They have incoming "player homes", "pets", "marketing system".. A very diverse set of new things are being added to the game within the next 6-8 months. However, nothing is even mentioned of pvp.

I wouldn't mind a little friendly competition but as the game is right now.. There's just no "critical" room for pvp currently. The game is more leaning towards direct interactions with players and the environment instead. Not players and players. The only new addition incoming that includes that new interaction would be the "market" and the new guild additions mentioned to happen between January and May.

We just need to sit tight and let asmobino release the things that will overall improve the Player and Environment expierence before they start further shaping the Player and Player side of the game

 

Aight Im done xD. Im gonna take the bait.

BUUUUUTT Gonna do it on a nice way and also, on an optimistic way of seeing things.
Will point out cons and pros of it, so that no one feels that I am offending him/her.

Aight Ima start.

First things first xD. I am really offended by L-28, as I felt the whole OT was directed at me, if not xD well not the way I read it. Done with that.

1. Toram isn't fresh, isn't new, its not a baby. It was in Alpha test for a whole year, with enough content for 6-8 months to release little by little. They had made the game a long time ago created the base algorithms and the graphics structure. When Alpha came out, all the players that tested it, had enough content to play for that whole alpha test, apart from the fact, they had a complete different story line from what we are experiencing right now and playing. Also, come on, its Asobimo, we will never stop seeing PvE content released.

2. This "New Features" are just a copy past of Iruna's Pets system. Player Shop is a copy of Jap's Iruna Player Stall's. Guild Factions and player housing, was already out in Alpha. We getting refurbished merchandise from its prequel and from things that were already ingame just a little more tweaked after testings.

3. As a developer(Asobimo) why make a sequel of your flagship game, and just make the same thing all over again, when they know their "Money" maker is Avabel, which is a pve/pvp game. Might aswell implement something that can generate lots of revenue for them, than just make a repetition of it all over again.

4. No PvP? If you manage to get access to Japanese Iruna "I-mode" they have had PvP since 2008, and their user base hasn't decrease since then, they even have GvG. Sadly US Iruna never saw this come to their shores, main reason, NO ONE opted to push Asobimo to provide it.

5. In no place have I requested Asobimo to provide PVP right now. The whole use of the petition and the ticked spamming, is to create conscience that PvP is what we would like to see developed in the future to come or at least give us a hunch if we are getting any at all. In no place am I dictating that I WANT IT NOW. Just looking forward to it.

6. Hackers, RMT, Botting. If people whine about it, then you are not a MMO gamer at all, this are 3 basic concepts, that make a game market and game devs work. If you can't deal with them, then might as well just quit MMO's all together, this 3 things have existed since 1998. When most of the players in this community were still on diapers or barely talking. Hackers will always exist, RMT will always exist, and Botting as well. Main reason why Asobimo makes a blind eye to this? Because it generates money for them, just like every other game publisher or developer. If you don't understand what I mean, don't bother thinking too much into it.

7. Why am I bothering myself to ask Asobimo to add PvP to this game?? Might as well answer this. I was asked to make the petition, to push an idea that has been circling on meeting boards, thats all. A Community move's the developers, and if the community can push the lever for the developers of a game to make that jump, then might as well do it.

8. Last to not keep this TLDR. Let me be a little Immature here to feed the bait that I was given xD.....

 

Woaahhh.. let's keep it PG13 lol. Let's not flame with such language! There's younger kids on these forums and they don't need any more introductions to foul language lol!

 

eh, if they've been passing by Rakau, pretty sure they've already left their innocence there XD

 

Oh boy.. oh boy oh boy oh boy...

 

I want PvP!
I want PK!
And I want to kill all afk party mates!

 

I don't see how hackers/botters help generate money. Games have shut down in the past due to crashing economies - all thanks to cheaters.

As for pvp, I don't care if they add it or not. If it's optional, those who want it can have fun, those who don't can avoid it. Simple as that. :3

 

Spoken true and in an awesome manor.

 

Can I say I love you?? Just if you let me, pretty please with some Kawaiii coated on it?? Yea??

 

PvP would most likely be in an arena setting. I tried playing World of Magic and it had PK... leveling was hell when high levels would snipe you all the time >.< And you lost exp every time you died. Don't get me wrong, I think PK would be better in Toram since dying doesn't lose exp, you can revive after pressing "Struggle" a lot and since you cannot see people's levels, most PKers are not be inclined to fight someone possibly high leveled, and you cannot kill party/guild members. But still, people will complain about PK and some jerk will wait around for a newbie to revive and kill him again so a designated arena is probably the best for both worlds.

Also, skill damage would have to be reduced by a factor of 10, and breaking needs a cooldown, kinda like how stun doesn't work for another 10 seconds on the opponent. Don't want to get hit for 20K crits when I don't even have 10k HP, or get flinch-locked!

 

For sure agree with you about the flinch lock and be caught by a 20k crit! Sadly there's games where this isn't taken into account like the mmorpg pc game Eden Eternal.. let's all pray that doesn't happen here if pvp is truly going to be a thing in the future one day.

 

As I have explained many many many many many times.....

The game is instance based. Why would anyone in their right mind, think this game would be able to cope up with an open pk mode =S.

Only way for it to work is Arena instanced combat. Duel requests if accepted get ported into a clean map or secluded area(ring like arena) and ditch it out, then just get a notification on a chat "Duel between x and x has ended, x is victorious" that way you won't bother anyone, and don't get lagged cus of too many packages loading.

GvG is another option, combat between guilds on a separate map, castle like theme, or outpost vs outpost theme, nothing fancy. 4vs4 or 8vs8 up to whatever they set themselves up to.

The game is instanced. You need different segmented areas to process different data.
They have maybe 1 month talking about it on their board meetings(don't ask how I know this). They just need the right push, to set up a schedule date. Nothing more. They have it all ready.... just need a little push....

I just want it to be posted on their Blog or their website, nothing more, a small notice that says "PvP Soon" nothing more. If you knew how many Jap players are whining about not having pvp on Toram arrgg... You would be astonished.