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ASK : Sub Weapon ATK Dual

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by Sick, Dec 26, 2016.

  1. Sick

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    Are sub weapon atk effect to the damage skill ? or just effect to normal atk?

    I need advice on whether better dex: agi = 1: 1 or full Dex or some else?
     
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    Pretty sure I read somewhere that the sub weapon atk and Refinement value has effects on the damage, but it's pretty minimal
     
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    I just know that the best sub is tomahawk
     
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    I think the sub atk+refine only affect the autoattack, and imo agi isnt really needed because u can still do high dmg with dex/str, even with dex/str 10agi and rest vit dmg is still pretty high, id only use agi if u are lacking some aspd and dnt wanna change gears from dmg to aspd
     
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    Yes it affects skills. The difference in damage from a Wood Sword to a Tomahawk and a Phyto Blade in between is massive.
    Also the damage you do on your Sub weapon is important. So its best to invest in agi more than str. Im a 150 dex 100 agi 50 str build and i do more damage than a 200 dex 100 str build.
     
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    Damage is also affected by the sub weapons stability and element
    My +S @126 Tomahawk on sub lets me deal damage between 14k to 22k.
    while my 106+B Light Elem lets me deal a consistent 17.5k on Scrader on Twin Slash.
     
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    affects to all skill or just DS skill ?

    There's calculation for demage skill ?
     
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    only DS Skills.
     
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    All DS skill or ???
    because i have read sub atk not affects to phantoms demage...
     
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    Yep, only Phantom is unaffected by offhand stat.
    Likewise, offhand stability is only taken into account on DW skills (again, bar Phantom). Same thing for element, but only if you don't have an element on main hand.
     
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    Logically, if Agi gives dmg to offhand weapon then that offhand doesnt has good stability rite? And thats why phyto with high stab is good as it gains power from Agi?
     
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    sorry can u explain more simple...
    your mean stab sub weapon no effect to non DS skill & phantom ?

    and element sub weap will no efect if i have element on my main weap ?

    u mean like that ?
     
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    Yep pretty much
     
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    Edit: stupid server errors
     
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    UP..

    Refine Sub Weapon Effect to atk or not ?
     
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    Only for dw, and i think only for sub hand autos
     
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    Yes This is Thread about DW
     
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