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How to calculate Crit rate % from stab? and others Crit's info ( Question post )

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Sarissa Ploy, Sep 30, 2017.

  1. Sarissa Ploy

    Sarissa Ploy Active Member

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    I'm still newbie to toram , so i have many question to ask ¥.¥, I got some info from players around , not sure if it is right >_<.
    Please corrected my understanding . I'm here to learn more about game ^^.

    • This skill give how many Crit rate
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    • All classes have 25 Crit rate as a base?
    • Is 3.5 CRT stat give 1Crit rate?
    • Is this skill include or exclude in Crit base?(25 Crit rate if im not wrong / info from others player)
    • When use stab ,its only penalty Crit base but not Crit rate from gear right?
    • How many % does stab penalty on Crit base / or overall Crit (Gear+ Base)
    • Is Crit rate from base and Crit rate from gear count as one?
    • Crit flat is Crit rate from gear but not Crit rate from base? whats different of Crit flat and normally Crit rate?
    • How many C.rate does Critical spear give when skill max 10
    • How to calculate crit that I currently have (example and explanation)
    • Added Question : Add STR will increase Crit rate too? if yes , how many STR give 1 Crit rate?

    Just want to make sure if i got a right info >_<
    you may add extra info about crit rate and skill , I'll be very happy >_<
    Thanks for advance ^^~
     

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  2. Isra

    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

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    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

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    Also what I can answer:
    Crit Up iirc is the equal of C555 armor
    Yes, all Crit rate is base 25. Nothing but Crit stat and gears alter that.
    Iirc it was 2.5 Crit stat for 1 Cr but don't quote me on that
    And Str only raises CD. +1% every 5 iirc
     
  4. Sarissa Ploy

    Sarissa Ploy Active Member

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    so 2.5 CRT stat = 1 Crit rate right >.<?
     
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    I really hope someone can answer you with full accuracy but i'll try my best from the info I got from the toram wiki and from this forums too
    • Crit up gives +5 (flat) to both crit rate and crit dmg at lvl 10
    •yes, all classes have 25% crit rate
    •every 3.4 CRT gives 1 crit rate but there is a difference in ios and android versions
    •it adds flat not % so it will be 30% crit rate and 155% crit dmg
    • I believe so, Strike stab has -12.5% crit penalty so you will have 12.5% crit rate and all the crit gear (%) will be based on 12.5 instead of 25
    •the base is 25 so + 13 will add to 25 normally while +13% will add equal to 13% of 25
    •I think its crit+5 and crit+5%
    • 25(base crit) + crit flat + (% of 25) crit %
    •STR doesn't add crit rate but crit damage instead, all characters have 150% base crit damage and every 5 STR gives 1 Cdmg and the total with 255 STR would be 150%+ (STR(255)/5) = 201% cdmg
     
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  7. Sarissa Ploy

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    Whats different between IOS and andriod?
    Different calculation T.T?
     
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    3.4 crt stat give 1 c rate to be exactly?
     
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    Basic critical ratio /CRT in iPhone version/ CRT in Android version
    25
    1 ~
    26 4 ~
    27 7 ~
    28 11 ~
    29 14 ~
    30 17 ~ 18 ~
    31 21 ~
    32 24 ~
    33 28 ~
    34 31 ~
    35 34 ~ 35 ~
    36 38 ~
    37 41 -
    38 45 ~
    39 48 ~
    40 51 ~ 52 ~
    41 55 ~
    42 58 ~
    43 62 ~
    44 65 ~
    45 68 ~ 69 -
    46 72 ~
    47 75 ~
    48 79 ~
    49 82 -
    50 85 ~ 86 -
    51 89 -
    52 92 -
    53 96 ~
    54 99 ~
    55 102 ~ 103 ~
    56 106 ~
    57 109 ~
    58 113 ~
    59 116 ~
    60 119 ~ 120 ~
    61 123
    62 126
    63 130
    64 133
    65 136 - 137 ~
    66 140 ~
    67 143 ~
    68 147 ~
    69 150 ~
    70 153 - 154 -
    71 157 ~
    72 160 ~
    73 164 -
    74 167 ~
    75 170 ~ 171 -
    76 174 -
    77 177 ~
    78 181 -
    79 184 -
    80 187 ~ 188 -
    81 191 -
    82 194 ~
    83 198 -
    84 201 ~
    85 204 ~ 205 -
    86 208 -
    87 211 -
    88 215 -
    89 218 -
    90 221 - 222 -
    91 225 ~
    92 228 -
    93 232 -
    94 235 ~
    95 238 ~ 239 ~
    96 242 -
    97 245 ~
    98 249 -
    99 252 ~
    100 255 ~ 256 -
     
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    Every 5 critical rate mark starting from 30 needs one more extra 1 CRT from Android compared to IOS
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Oof I am trying real hard to go inactive but I cant skip this one I guess.

    @Sarissa Ploy You are much stronger than me I have seen your p.ray halb dunno why you calling yourself a newbie.
    --Critical UP gives critical+5 and critical damage+5% (crit flat and % cd)
    --All classes have 25% base chance to critical hit.
    --It is 3.4CRT = +1 critical the bug on android is fixed by now (I think). For hard evidence will have to wait till I make my full CRT char.
    --It adds as a flat value so it will give you +5% chance to critical unaffected by your base 25%
    --Strike stab nerf is that it halves your base critical rate so if it was 25 (no CRT personal) you would get -50% of that which would be -13 critical if you had 18CRT personal it would add +5 to the base 25 which would make it 30 now strike stab will half that as well so now it would give you -15 critical. It will NOT half the flat critical stats like critical+13 on your gears or critical+5 from the skill which makes it better to not invest too many points in CRT and aim for more critical+ on your gears instead. I hope I didnt make that too complicated.
    --It halves it so it is -50% as I said before and yep only on base.
    --I dont get this question, technically they are not one and the same. Critical+ flat stats from your gears are added directly while critical+% stats are multiplied to your base critical. Or if you mean both being a total critical chance then yes.
    --Flat critical is the stats found in gears in the form of critical+x (without a % sign) means they are added directly to your chances to critical. E.g. If you have a weapon with critical+13 on your gears and nothing else your critical rate would be 25+13 = 33% (once in every 3 attacks in average)

    I think you are confusing yourself way too much with nomenclature I can give you a formula to calculate critical on strike stab:-
    {[25+(CRTpersonal)/3.4]*[1+(Critical%)/100]}/2+ (Critical+flat)
    Critical% is the total of the critical+% you can get from gears/skills
    CRTpersonal is the personal stat you add at lvl40
    Critical+ Is the flat stats that I talked about earlier see how theres no "/2" on it.

    --Critical spear adds critical+5 and critical+5%
    --Use the formula I mentioned above to calculate.
    --Nope str doesnt add crit.
     
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    Mayam sir according to ur formula I am getting 99 - 100% crit on strike stab x-x although i see white dmgs often with strike stab on 1h

    {[25+(CRTpersonal)/3.4]*[1+(Critical%)/100]}/2+ (Critical+flat)
    ={[25+(1)/3.4]*[1+(13+13+2%)/100]}/2+ (13+13+15+8+5+5)
    = (25.29*1.28)/2 + 59
    = 16.18+59
    = 75
    if my combo starter is astute then 75+25 = 100% crit, I still see white dmgs on strike stab though.
     
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    Yay, Mayam to the rescue! *^*
     
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    I am really newbie to Crit halb build >_<
    and I am trying to make one , I need calculation because I want my build to have 96 - 98 % crit >_<
    Thanks alot for your help , Your answer helps me understand alot!
    also I am just back active on Toram again cx

    Thank you all again >_<
     
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    For 1h it is,
    {[25+(CRTpersonal)/3.4]*[1+(Critical%)/100]}/4 + (Critical+flat)

    I think I already told you this in a pm. Your total is 91% with astute.
     
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    I see i see oAo I thought same for 1h dang it...and yes u did x-x thats why i asked ur formula here.
     
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