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how much hit is needed end game?

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by zidene, Jan 7, 2018.

  1. zidene

    zidene Member

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    I have a few builds that cant raise dex for various reasons. Or at least not much if at all

    One of them is a hybrid knuckle magic hybrid if anyones curious, uses iceclaw snow.

    But the issue i have is i am unable to hit certain bosses (like boss roga at lv 50) im using the wing headband , a kukuri and consumables atm.

    With a + 20 consumable i can hit him most the time but what worries me are end game mobs.

    The katana and battle skill are worthless, giving + 10 each
     
  2. Komibii

    Komibii [TITLE] Elite Member

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    200-300 should be enough for normal mobs and bosses, but mini bosses and high-dodge bosses may need 301-500.
     
  3. zidene

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    I literaly have no way to get that ..is there any other way? Maybe focus on crit stat abit?

    Or what about that katana skill? The auto crit one?
     
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    No matter how many hit you have. The boss will always high dodge to make u miss all the time, or graze aka critical on miss.

    U should focus to get 100% crit. Because that's necessary for all physical dps class

    Meikyo Shisui only gives 40 Crit for other class beside weebtana. It's not auto crit :v
     
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  5. zidene

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    Damn . Any advice on getting 100% crit?

    I dont under stand the crit stats all to well.

    Whats the differance between 15 crit rate and 15%?
     
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    Komibii [TITLE] Elite Member

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    Yes, crit is almost always better than accuracy, though that doesn't mean that accuracy is completely useless. Even at 100% crit, your attacks can still graze. A graze is basically a crit that has 1/2 of your original stability, so accuracy can be useful depending on what build type you are using. Builds that gain ATK from DEX can focus a little bit on accuracy, but non-DEX builds should just focus on ATK, cdmg, etc. and just accept the fact that their hits will graze.
     
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    Ways to get critical rate stats:
    •Player-made weapons and armor with +critical and +critical% stats.
    •Subweapons such as: vulcan shield, chimera arrow, heavy knife, storm dagger, demi knife, etc.
    •Gothic hat (add gear).
    •Warmonger, Bexis, and critical+3 crystas.
    •Enchanted avatars.
    •Certain skills like: critical up, two hands, and meikyo shisui.

    The difference between crit rate 15 and 15% is that +15 is added to your default crit rate (25 + 15), while +15% increases your total critical rate by that percentage (25 * 1.15). Both of them are useful, but crit rate is better than crit rate% if your crit rate is low.
     
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    Thank you. What about the crit stat?

    If i forgo agility , i can max int and put some crit in. Once i get the lapin xtal ill have 275% add magic. That and atk up int will shore up some passive issues.

    I can use magic as my main source of damage, using knuckle skills for break and proration. Auto attacks , well hitting 4 times or more per swing with 250% add magic wont be to bad dmg wise. Worst case hey look at all that atk on mp mana regen
     
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    700+ still misses in a few high diff bosses like hard or nm tyrant.
     
  10. zidene

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    Well my build is an experimental build just gonna adjust it. What do you think? (Detailed the how above)
     
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    Crit, critical, crit rate, & critical rate are all the same stat.
     
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    stack crit. it'll be better but dont forget to keep a high hit stat coz you will be dealing graze damage with high crit low hit
     
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    If your doing additional magic i think @Vedar777 has made one once...
     
  14. zidene

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    No idea who that is :eek:
     
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    I think he meant the lv40 personal stat crit... I think it boosts both crit rate and crit damage but i forget how much they get boosted per stat point assigned
     
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    CRT is the name of the personal crit stat. CRT only gives crit rate (+1 for every 3.4 points if I recall correctly). I forgot to mention it earlier.
     
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    Hmm so is putting points in the personal stat worth it?
     
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    If you need a little bit of extra crit, then yes. Do note that putting too many points in CRT means that you can't put as many points into other stats (of course), and your build might be too weak, so don't spend too many points on it.
     
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    if you have no crit boosting skills, absolutely.
    if you do, you need it less or not at all.

    katanas can get 100% with just their skills,
    2h swords get 75% with Astute.

    =(^.^)=
     
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    Weebus ..err i mean katanas are sure fotm haha. but they cant get 100% crit rate without that one skill that works on autos + the first skill of a combo. I personaly love to smite my heavy hitters in a combo hehe.

    Really? 2 hand swords can do that? Neat.

    I know halbreds have a ton of crit buffs too.

    Oh well i really dont want this build to flop, i spent a piercer on it o,,o .

    Can magic crit at all?
     

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