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Say NO to PVP, petition here...

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Odin, Nov 3, 2015.

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Pvp?

  1. No way...

    28.8%
  2. I have no blimmen idea...

    13.6%
  3. Pvp is my life...

    57.6%
  1. Squid

    Squid Ur Goldfish's lover Elite Member

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    please keep in mind that this kid had made his account purely to make a protest against PvP, which is baiting Kime and WANTS to put in his 2 cents about what he wants.
     
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  2. Cryous

    Cryous Well-Known Member

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    Kime can keep his rude butt out. He usually finds a way to pour oil onto a fire >> Let me handle this with reason. lol
     
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  3. Odin

    Odin O.o hello? Anyone there? Elite Member

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    Thank you for taking an invested interest in my post. Often when people state an opinion on a topic it is supported by either data or resources. I wonder why people are getting upset of having an opinion on a topic. It seems that some may enjoy when the opinion agrees with their thoughts, but when it differs the opinion or different view is not welcomed, could be challenged or in some cases possibly attacked.

    Sad really. I'd hope that PVP wouldn't create this sort of behavior or fester into something rather malice.
     
  4. Odin

    Odin O.o hello? Anyone there? Elite Member

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    Firstly, not a kid. Secondly, I have been apart of this forum since it had less than 20 members. Thirdly, I don't mind what Kime does. He's got a petition for, and I've got a petition against.
     
  5. Crown3d

    Crown3d Well-Known Member

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    Opinions are all fine and dandy until they affect someone else. Making a petition against PvP because you don't like it is like telling me I can't eat ice cream because your on a diet.
     
  6. Hanagumi

    Hanagumi Active Member

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    Actually, the one-eyed man is right. He's making a petition against, healthy and fair, for the members who also doesn't want Pvp... This just somehow turn into an arguement is all... XD -peace~
     
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  7. Odin

    Odin O.o hello? Anyone there? Elite Member

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    And telling me the game I play has PVP is like saying, you have to have ice cream
     
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  8. Odin

    Odin O.o hello? Anyone there? Elite Member

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    I don't want arguments, I just want an opportunity to have an opinion just the same as those that have a different view. If I was against the people who want this, then I wouldn't have put PVP is my life as an option for the poll. Thank you @Hanagumi for seeing this is what I'm after.
     
  9. Niflheimr

    Niflheimr Well-Known Member

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    @Odin lol don't want an argument? surely this No to PvP petition is directed to a specific PvP petition which originated in this Forum. I don't see a good reason to file for a No to PvP petition coz PvP doesn't exist in the first place. Sure you want to voice your opinion, but starting with your title No to PvP, seriously? you're already making a conflict here and imo your idea is unnecessary coz there's no PvP! damn it.. XD
     
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  10. Mini_Meaw

    Mini_Meaw Well-Known Member

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    I totally agree with you. I think it is fair for everyone to voice their oppinion as long as they stated in a polite way. In my area of study, we always encorage people to think out side the box and respect other people's opinions.

    For me, i hate pvp or gvg. I am not that kind of player who always looking to make the best equipments or make the best character but....

    I am both for and against pvp. I think pvp arena is fine. But random pvp is not. I used to play a game where they have a pvp area in a farming site (yea... i hate that place) and another one at the town gate (wth... i could not get out of town without using a teleport card)

    So as long as they make a proper area for pvp then it is fine for me.

    For your statment about agressive behaviors in game...

    I turn off graphic including players and shout box. So i do not really care what other people doing in game.

    I think it is fair for both groups. If you dont like seeing people' s behavior then turn the graphic off , turn the shout box off ( i feel like Soya's all mine ,lol) ...

    There are million of people playing this game and they have different behaviors and attitudes.With or without pvp ... it wont make a difference.
     
  11. Squid

    Squid Ur Goldfish's lover Elite Member

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    Then this thread has no reason to be here and is considered as spam? ;)
     
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  12. Niflheimr

    Niflheimr Well-Known Member

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    idk Squid we got Mods for that ^^
     
  13. Squid

    Squid Ur Goldfish's lover Elite Member

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    Since you've finally started to reply to me, please wise one, tell me what the benefits of PvE is versus PvP? Cry already dejected all your reasonings of why the game shouldn't have PvP.
     
  14. Crown3d

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    No one is saying you have to have ice cream (I.E. Don't particbate in PvP)

    Everyone is open to an opinion. Your opinion happens to limit other people which Iam not for. PvP supporters don't have the option to simply not particbate as those against. To be more specific it's like my reason stated above. If PvP is released you don't have to play. If it's never released supporters can never play, while you continue not playing.
     
  15. Alleura

    Alleura Well-Known Member

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    I am interested more in PK-ing. So I can kill those random people who Auto-bot in the game.
    They are breaking game balance more than RMT players.
    Tournament and leaderboard things is boring.
     
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  16. firefox1981

    firefox1981 Elite Member Elite Member

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    OK stepping in here read enough ....
    firstly he created this post purely for feed back of general opinions about the cons and to give his own opinion.yes Odin its a bold move and yes I respect ppl not afraid to say there 2cents.but this has spiralled now and suggest anti or cakes blocks further commemtd. squid please be respectfully to others posts Odin had no intention of Kim's pro PvP vs against PvP its just good to hear the ying as well as the yang so ...calling someone kids kinda rude you know I respect you squid please don't make me think otherwise.this week ive delt with my own issues too I'm just sick of ppl hating for now important reason.also if anyone has a problem with me saying this tbh I really don't give a WAFFLE anymore-- sorry--- odin you post what you like and same for any others just be more considerate OK..
     
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  17. Squid

    Squid Ur Goldfish's lover Elite Member

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    I thought your done with the thread ^-^, also I've been wondering if I could get my answer to my question, "What are the benefits of PvE? " there are botters in the game, isn't that why you said you "quit"? I'm also posting in my opinions as well, but it isn't being properly responded to.
     
  18. firefox1981

    firefox1981 Elite Member Elite Member

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    ik squid and yes I came back and was caused on returning of botting myself tbh .this is y I raged its like ppl like myself can't say waffles about bitters and then I'm caused of the crime it sickens me tbh how ppl jump on others words/hopes/opinions/dreams etc and no squid that wasn't aimed at you buddy lol,
     
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  19. Antihero

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    To disallow opposing debate towards the No PvP topic would just as bad as not allowing a No PvP topic. I think the opposing statements and refuting arguments have been mannered with critical points. As long as the debates stay on-topic (which is the topic of No PvP in Toram, whether that be supporting or opposing) without infringing the rules, then it should be fine.
     
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  20. firefox1981

    firefox1981 Elite Member Elite Member

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    OK anti all good now dnt worry bud,
     
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