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help cant find gunfu chariot not impac build

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Ru°, May 7, 2018.

  1. Ru°

    Ru° Well-Known Member

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    can someone help me find the guide
    or must get impact to combo
    so what the use somke dust?

    and thanks for the helps

    note im lvl 81 now
    cp3
    moba > smoke ( save ) > sonic ( swift) > sinpe

    why my damge so low
     
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  2. Umi

    Umi Active Member

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    Opener> smoke(save) -80%dmg, sonic(swift) -60%dmg> Snipe -40%dmg..

    That's why your damage is low, you need to put 2 more skill before snipe, so that snipe won't receive the damage penalty from the save tag. Also make sure that the ender won't get easily activated like holy fist for the mp.

    Sorry my English grammar suckss >.<
     
  3. Komibii

    Komibii [TITLE] Elite Member

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    1. You need to put a smite tag on your smite. You could to that by swapping its place with sonic wave. That combo would work a lot better, but if you wanted to do even more damage you could put it in a longer combo further away from the saver skill.

    2. Replacing snipe with chariot is a nice idea since you won't have to worry about snipe's crit rate reduction. A good combo for that is: sonic wave> smoke dust (save)> chariot (smite)> paralysis shot/moeba shot/smash (consecutive).

    3. Why a no-impact build? I understant that impact takes up a lot of sp, but it is really useful. If you got impact, you could make a combo like this: sonic wave/moeba shot> arm break (save)> meikyo shisui (consecutive)> snipe (smite)> impact (consecutive)> chariot (smite)> any 1-6mp skill (consecutive). You could also get meikyo shisui to put in front of snipe so you wouldn't have to worry about its crit rate reduction (sonic wave/moeba shot> arm break (save)> meikyo shisui (consecutive)> snipe (smite)> impact (consecutive)> chariot (smite)> any 1-6mp skill (consecutive).
     
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  4. Xiavu

    Xiavu Lurking Overlord of LOVE[L.O.L.] Elite Member Epic Member

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    Usually it is like this:
    Moeba>smoke(save)>filler skill(cons)>filler skill(cons)>filler skill(cons)>snipe(smite)>sonic(swift)
    Snipe will be at 150% if you just use 2 filler skill it will be at 110% damage boost by smite.
    Impact by far is the single most useful skill next to mp charge not because of magic damage but how much mp you can save using it in a combo. Of course there are other means if you dont want to use impact since i myself dont use it much.
     
  5. Ru°

    Ru° Well-Known Member

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    can u tell me the full guide theard
     
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    Ru° Well-Known Member

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    i m still newbie what the mean of filler
    moba - somke save - sonic - impact - snipe
    damge stil under 10k
     
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    Xiavu Lurking Overlord of LOVE[L.O.L.] Elite Member Epic Member

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    Filler skills are the combo-able skills you have that is 1-3mp cost that you don't really use as your main attack skills. May it be an attack or a buff, you just put it there just for your snipe(smite) be 2-3 skills away from your smoke(save) and have that damage bonus from snipe.
    I think, you need to browse a lot in the guide section or take a peek on our pink lady's list(@kariin ) for starters it helped me a lot about basics and other pink stuffs.
     
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  9. bloodytolits

    bloodytolits Hiatus. Playing Ragnarok M Elite Member

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    Combo tags:

    Save - Reduce damage of the skill with this tag by 80% and subsequent skills by 60%, 40%, 20% respectively. Skill does not consume mp and creates a free mp pool that is the same as the cost of the save skill. If there is still mp left in the saved mp pool, that mp is added on the cost of the last skill.

    Consecutive - Reduce cost of mp by 100 but reduces damage by 10%. Mp and damage reduction is multiplied by the number of skills before the skill with this tag(e.g. 3rd skill in a combo with cons would cost 200 less mp but deals 20% less damage because there are 2 skills before it)

    Swift - Increase Motion speed by 50%

    Smite - Increases damage by 50%. Lowers the damage of the next skill by 50%. If there is no skill next to the skill with this tag, double its mp cost.

    There are 2 more but forgot about them LeL, they're rarely used anyway.


    You're dealing weak damage because of save tag. You need to add smite on your snipe to compensate for the damage loss from save. I suggest level your cp first.

    Your combo is Moeba(1mp)>Smoke(5mp saved, -80% damage)> Sonic(4mp save, -60% damage)> Impact(2mp save, -40% damage)> Snipe(0mp save, -20% damage)

    As you can see here your snipe is only dealing 80% of your normal damage.

    You need atleast 3 more combo points to make your snipe deal 130%, or 1 to make it 110%.

    1 more cp:
    Moeba> Smoke(save)> Impact> Snipe(Smite)> Sonic

    3 more cp:
    Moeba> Smoke(save)> Sonic> Impact> Snipe(Smite)> Paralysis shot(Cons)


    At higher CP and level, you might want to use some buffs like war cry as filler skills so you don't ruin proration as proration also lowers damage.

    What's proration?
    Well I don't wanna type anymore so here: http://toramonline.com/index.php?th...se-a-complete-explanation-of-toram-dps.31919/ :p
     
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  10. Asatu

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    You lack basic knowledge of dps. Search what mr @bloodytolits has put and search "tome of offense"
     

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