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Attack 5% vs weapon attack 12%

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by david bobby, Jan 24, 2019.

  1. david bobby

    david bobby Member

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    Hi anyone, we know we have new xtall from zelbuse.
    So its good xtall??
    Which one better, attack 5% from guignol or weapon attack 12% from zelbuse??

    Thank you.
    Btw i use +s bg for main char. IMG-20190124-WA0014.jpg
     
  2. BK

    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    5%atk is better, 12% weapon atk would add like 15atk
     
  3. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    12% weapon would add like 30atk not 15 but still even 3% atk (In your case even 2% atk) is better than 12% weapon atk so yea go for that thing only if you really lack crit (Which you shouldnt at this point) and dont mind the mp drop.
    Overall not a great xta. The accuracy hardly makes a difference as well
     
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    Lenwok Elite Member Elite Member

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    You would only REALLY need this if your main weapon has -100% crit and you are going sub-MD. This xtal is a godsend! :rolleyes:
     
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    They have bgs over 250atk now? 150bg gets me like 18atk
     
  6. david bobby

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    so 12% not work for multiple atk refine +s?
    I mean if my attack 188 so 188 x 1,12 x 1,74 or 188 x 1,74 + 1,12 x 188?
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    It will not be multiplied by your refine at all. It will only be multiplied by your ATK% total so a 190 atk bg can give +29 atk with 30% ATK stat.
     
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    Also forgot to add in atk% when using the jproche calculator
     
  9. TokiXKiru

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    Depends actually, because guignol is hard to farm. Unless you have the spina to buy guignol, lynx is easier to farm. When I mean easier to farm, I mean that there is no eye to kill you.
     
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    I do not think that was the point of the question at all. 95% of toram players do not exactly farm every xtal they own. And even so your logic is flawed. Farm lynx, sell that and buy more guignols.
     
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    yea but before you discuss the stats of the xtal, you need to know if you can actually get it (the xtal) in the first place. But yea, selling lynx, a new xtal, will get you some spina to get a guignol.
     
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    They can get the xtal that's why they want to know if it's worth getting. Did you miss the part where they said "I use +S BG"
     
  13. david bobby

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    Okay thank you. May be, i need buy one for better experiment.
     
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    okay, thank you for your suggestions.
     
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    Yeah u right.
    I use +s cone 3 bg tyrant + gwai
    Arm : mom fluck + ornlarf
    Add gothic : ww + lyark
    Machina Ring : guignol + lalvada

    I didnt use double guig coz minus aspd or double lyark because minus motion.
    My style : spam snipe and then cf, so i need fast motion and more cric (-25% cr when snipe). So, when i saw this xtall, i think its good xtall, because hve c rate and attack, i but i did'nt understand about weapon % dmge.
    #sorry for my bad english
     
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    just curious about weapon atk% stat
    if i use dual sword , does weapon atk% add atk to both sub and main weapon ?
     
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    You can not use 2 of the same xtals in one gear anyway. But you can be talking about the lyark too idk. Overall if you need the crit rate you can consider buying this xtal it will be good
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Yes it does apply to both but so does atk%
    Theres absolutely no reason to go for weaponatk% stat alone instead of atk% unless they make some equip with like 50% weapon atk or something.
     
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