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About Banning System

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Esnar Xeon Din Eiji, Mar 17, 2019.

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We need Asobimo to remove permanent ban in exchange:

  1. 100 year Banned which its still able to remove the penalties depending players inquiry matter.

    5 vote(s)
    29.4%
  2. All good function banned, chat, trade, etc that restrict any illegal activity but still able to play

    7 vote(s)
    41.2%
  3. R.I.P

    5 vote(s)
    29.4%
  1. Esnar Xeon Din Eiji

    Esnar Xeon Din Eiji Well-Known Member

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    Since theres a lot of matter about unfair banned that cause a lot of legit player in trouble, i wanna try to have a deal directly to asobimo (its in very very low chance they gonna listen but hopefully you guys wanna help to send inquiry about this)
    So what do you think about those poll above?
    *) Asobimo could not lift a permanent ban once it applied, fair or no its too late already if they apply this kind of Ban.
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    100 year ban:
    Consider about this. Consider as permanent banned since you not going to play toram in 100 year later (if you still alive)
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    All function banned:
    Took all freedom from players that cause extreme uncomfort feeling during playing, even there are penalties 1-6, still the ban not only chat and trade, but party and more compared playing offline game. Took all freedom until the player send inquiry about whats the matter(for legit player)
     
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  2. Yunan

    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    Didn't they already have penalty level system?
     
  3. Esnar Xeon Din Eiji

    Esnar Xeon Din Eiji Well-Known Member

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    Penalties level are still not fair and their ban hammer is still unfair, sometimes a permanent banned for a small matter, etc. Im not sure is they really thinking about a players that maybe have some problem that make them misunderstanding or something like that... just the permanent banned which is mostly slammed player
     
  4. Ichsan12

    Ichsan12 Active Member

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    Whats the rules ? Soorry i never read ToS when playing toram

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  5. Esnar Xeon Din Eiji

    Esnar Xeon Din Eiji Well-Known Member

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    You not going to ask me to tell u 1 by 1 which you can read it at en.toram.jp dont you? :fail:
     
  6. Esnar Xeon Din Eiji

    Esnar Xeon Din Eiji Well-Known Member

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    Some legit player that dont really do a fatal mistakes but got permanent banned is really exist. Toram staff just go for banning without considering anything. Permanent banned is serious matter which it cant be removed once applied. But if they changing the ban to 100 year ban, player still can explaining about the matter. Or if badluck they Banned a whales which spend a lot their money to play their games and got sued to japanese government directly. :notlikethis:
     
  7. Ledeux

    Ledeux Active Member

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    Well, as far as I know people get banned for a reason.
    1. Botting
    2. Trying to interrupt servers activity.
    3. Trying to deceive asobimo by paying by PayPal and then asking for refund.
    4. Massively scamming others in game
    5. RMT
    I do not think there's a wrong way to be banned. Plain and simple, follow the simple rules and play fair.
     
  8. Esnar Xeon Din Eiji

    Esnar Xeon Din Eiji Well-Known Member

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    Theres a lot of reason that they didnt mention, if their own feeling say so, ban cant be avoided. In rare case, sometime player that didnt know anything got banned because of a evil player or smiliar nick name, example: IMgood and lMgood
    The (capital i) IMgood is innocent and (small L) lMgood is a trouble maker, then (capital i) IMgood getting permanent banned because of word matter. And IMgood account cant back anymore, its very annoying matter which even IMgood sending 1000 inquiry it wont back anymore.
     
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  9. Razielle

    Razielle Well-Known Member

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    Why so many "strange" posts on Sunday? >.>
    Go start another petition like the guy below lmao.
    Guys, you seriously believe that a company will make changes to their ToS just because a few (!) players dont like smth?
    Any ban can be lifted, same as solving any issue, however it depends on the willingness of staff.
    If it soils their reputation too much, they will just make an exception and thats that. It seriously took them like 3 years to start killing bots and you want them to do meaningless changes to their ToS.
    No offence, but its the same if a mexican came to US and started talking bout changing US laws because he doesnt like them? :fail::cmonbruh:
     
  10. Esnar Xeon Din Eiji

    Esnar Xeon Din Eiji Well-Known Member

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    Permanent Banned cant be lifted whatever the reason, same like every game i played, they all say so, even they have find out that we are didnt do anything. And im also victim of permanent ban which gladly they wanna compensate me with new account after a lot of effort sending inquiry. And if permanent banned can be lifted then why they need to give me new account with compared content inside of your banned old account (not sure its compared or no xD)?
     
  11. Yunan

    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    Does this really happen? I dont know how exactly they ban players, but this case of similarity in names shouldnt occur in the first place, as in, you can have an identical nickname on different servers. So I think they have a way to verify these nicknames instead of simply banning them based on what it looks like on the reports
     
  12. Esnar Xeon Din Eiji

    Esnar Xeon Din Eiji Well-Known Member

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    This occur in a very rare case, but its really happen. But its a rare case that not always happen, Human error is really exist, just now about how professional their staff giving penalties. Sometime a lazy staff just slam off a ban hammer which player cant do much for this matter.
     
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    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    Im still sceptical, unless you can provide the exact case of it happening in toram. And yes, I think the ban should be something that can be lifted(technically speaking) instead of instant termination, or maybe a period of probation. They're being sloppy about it
     
  14. Esnar Xeon Din Eiji

    Esnar Xeon Din Eiji Well-Known Member

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    I have been always think all banned can be lifted, but after a lot of incident happen to a player which cant speak english or else, i have think twice why permanent banned cant be lifted... what exactly they do to account until they cant even lift it... are this have a connection to google or what idk yet... we need to work with them to get information about the banning system
     
  15. Esnar Xeon Din Eiji

    Esnar Xeon Din Eiji Well-Known Member

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    I have been curious since my banned time at january 25th... is it really cant be lifted up and they need to compensate me with a item content to new account... because they banned a account that worth of 530.000-850.000¥ which can be proved with purchase history.. they took my matter seriously after i mention that... if they really can lift up, why need to compensate me with such thing? Are they embrassed to lift up to dont show if permanent banned can be lifted?
    *)Sorry for confusing english if you confused
     
  16. Razielle

    Razielle Well-Known Member

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    There is probably some hidden meaning.
    For example, you wont be able to refund the new account in the future (or something like that) and in-game items are free for company, they can just create new ones.
    Ban is nothing special, its just a restriction and any restriction can be lifted (account deletion is a different story)
     
  17. Esnar Xeon Din Eiji

    Esnar Xeon Din Eiji Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm... what you said maybe right..they told me to create new account with email and password then ask me to give the email and character name, and told me to not login until next day... they maybe put some hidden ninja script for stalk me... oh and then after they reply me, they attach a file for me that they told me to delete it after i put in a toram directory, replacing new one... maybe you have a point here to say they maybe put something on me...
     
  18. Xiavu

    Xiavu Lurking Overlord of LOVE[L.O.L.] Elite Member Epic Member

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    Based on my experience in playing multiple tittle of mmo. We have no dibs on the rules and regulation of toram, *the term: "suck it or gtfo" is the bottom line.*
    You can whine all day about your money but unless you got an army of lawyers, "better to kiss the ass, you gonna kiss it anyway" we can only appeal but they are still both the judge and the executioner.
     
  19. wonderer

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    Before starting the game asobimo should implement a threat notice:D for all the players and force players to read it carefully in big capital red letters about the penalty.
    Like if anyone tries to do anything illegal in game then they will get permanent IP ban and no 2nd chances. LOL
     

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