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Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Efra, Apr 8, 2019.

  1. Xiavu

    Xiavu Lurking Overlord of LOVE[L.O.L.] Elite Member Epic Member

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    That sucks! Guess im not riding that train.
     
  2. ayne

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    This changes everything, only if true though. My favourites will be +480 Luk and Tec stats for making refining much less scary and more pot gain on low pot equipment during statting, weapons like knux and bgun will have more room to grow, blacksmiths will get more pot when crafting, plus lvl 200 smith skills are also coming :rolleyes:.

    It would be sad if they decide to only increase the cap of non-personal stats..
     
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  3. Rydalis Darx

    Rydalis Darx Well-Known Member

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    You know, theres probably gonna be tests on whether keeping 255 main > 200 sub stats or going full main stat is better.
    I have no idea if I want my archer to keep the 255 Dex 200 Str or go for full 500 Dex.
     
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    I definitely don’t want stat cap raised to 500 especially considering how polarizing stat growth is between weapons. We were just about to get to 3 stat builds to.
     
  5. AliceYvne

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    Well...when it’s come, it’s will come, a glass cannon will become a paper canon. By the ways, in the video say Dancer skill will come first and its same like Magic Warrior skill and Dark power skill....need book. Dancer book possible will future event.
     
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    Dodge is gonna be the new Meta for 500 AGI XD
     
  7. Efra

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    I dunno guys but I don't really like the idea of raised stat cap

    I mean, we are so close to have 2 full stat. So close to unite STR DS and AGI DS. So close to unite DEX Katana and STR Katana.

    Glass cannons would be everywhere. Even full luck farmer? You don't want that in your party
     
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  8. ayne

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    Maybe more like paper howitzers instead of just paper canons :p
    Wait no, naval guns fit the description better..
    Or better yet, paper torpedoes lol
     
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    Maybe and I hope they'll provide another way to earn more stat points apart from level-up.
    Just like they did in Iruna's Apostolia, i.e. stat leveling (although it was really pain in the a**).
    That way, making 2 or 3-stats build is still possible.
     
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    Appears my account got a second rollback.... amazing they work on developing before helping customers. But this the end for me. Riyoz..thanks for help. End days best guildies. Good bye to all.
     
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  11. Barzeft

    Barzeft It is better to be silent instead of hurtful Elite Member

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    I'd like an easier way to distribute stats instead of tapping + for every stat point but then again that's just me being lazy as well as considering when people are short on time ^^
     
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  12. Efra

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    You can slide your finger across the stat bar from 1 to 255 to fill it quickly
     
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  13. Barzeft

    Barzeft It is better to be silent instead of hurtful Elite Member

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    I'll have to try this, thanks for the information.
     
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    I don't think the stat cap is going to raise any time soon. for the following reasons:
    - The information was unconfirmed officially, it's likely just a hoax, or a joke.
    - The stat cap increase will trigger another reset week, and we just had one (or two) recently. It would be unlikely to have another one considering the revenue from oblivion books and reset books is a real thing for asobimo. It's like shooting themselves in the foot.
    - Changing stat cap when level cap is not even high enough for stat points to max 2 stats yet will change the game balance. It will make developers work harder to balance the game back. And we know they are still trying to recover from the last crash, and now working on balancing the new two skill trees. I don't think such a major change would be implemented any time soon. In software engineering, changes like this are at the requirement level, meaning, it is the most expensive change in a software life circle, and is limited by the handful of people who can work on it. This is not something even Blizzard can pull off, and we are talking about Asobimo.
     
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    Am I colorblind or there is orange critical?
     
  16. Rydalis Darx

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    Soon, probably not, eventually, maybe.
    It wouldnt be absurd to assume that the cap will raise since Asobimo created thier game with a level cap above 100 and reaching to higher than 200 and a system where some weapons get certain boosts from certain stats. Bow can get a lot of HIT from Dex and CDMG from Str while getting Attack from both, when the eventual comes that 255 Dex isnt enough hit the game becomes slightly more unbalanced because the players are underpowered (assume HIT works and isnt a useless stat for this example).
     
  17. AliceYvne

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    Everything discuss here all base on guessing, none is official. If only item that is officially announce can be discuss, then that is not consider as discussing but is asking. Beside, Break the stat limit is not impossible, because no one say 255 is the best limit for a stat, perhaps is just because the time is not yet reach, and how it’s going to works and what is the best, this is what we discussing here.

    Launching a new update or patches is not a big problem because developing and monitoring is on different team, this is why they can directly implement Assassin skill at the same time they rollback the player data. They already implement the update on their own developer environment and tested no conflict with existing system only release to us. Bug is always not an issues as long as the new patches won’t occur fatal error on existing system, and no developer will wait till 100% safe only release the new patches.

    Lastly in a proper project planning, you can delay your project target schedule but not the Project objective schedule, and this is why Toram release 2 chapter at the same time it’s because they want to catch up their project schedule which is possible to release Chapter X in this quarter. So if the limit Break is their target in this quarter, they will release it’s no matter how.

    I won’t say I’m correct but this should be how a proper project planning.
     
  18. UfuLamb

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    500 stat point? Say no more!!
    Dragontooth online
     
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    i said "I don't think" and I stated my reasons. Those count as opinions, which are perfectly fit in a discussion. So I don't understand why you have to bring up the points you made like I did something I was not supposed to.

    And I whole-heartedly disagree with your understanding of project planning. Features update (new chapters) is one thing, bug fixing is another thing, and then when it comes to game design changing, it's also another thing. All rebalance work are counted as game design changing. Some a seriously big, some are small. The big ones will cost a lot, such as giving out a week of free reset. They cost in real money by reducing the income from a major income source. increasing stat to 500 cap is a seriously big game design change. It will affect all skill system, which means you have to change the skills to fit with the new stat cap as well. This change is not as small as the recent skill rebalancing we just had. It will involve the design team ( a game design team in a project is very unique, they don't code, they just brainstorm and test). When I say THE design team, i mean it. In any game, there is always 1 design team, not two, just one. They will have to do 1 job at a time. Right now they are doing the dancer and minstrel skill job as we can see in their video.

    If you have studied software engineering in school, you probably have heard of this saying: "you make 1 baby in 9 months with 1 woman, but you can't just ask 9 women to make 1 baby in 1 month". If you are not in software engineering, then what I said may sound strange to you.
     
  20. AliceYvne

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    What make you believe those 2 skill still in progress? Yup I’m not a software engineering but I believe project planning is not only use by software engineering.
     

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