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So Crit Rate for some reason bypass HIT stat huuh ??

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Shivael, Apr 21, 2019.

  1. Shivael

    Shivael Well-Known Member

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    Okay this something that i found out.,

    when im using Master Tonfa (Crit Rate -100%) for some reason all of my auto got miss when hit enemy..,

    when im using lil empress series weapon - It have more chance to landing hit..,

    i find this quite interesting, because i found out the same thing with toy hammer which give 100 flat crit rate (I never seen it miss when im using that weapon)


    so this my theory.,

    I guess this game code prioritize Crit hit before miss/graze (which affected by hit stat)
    means, the more higher your crit rate the more higher chance u landing hit toward enemy...


    so raise dex stat for only purpose increase hit stat become not really usefull for solving miss huuh ?
    *yeah it still usefull..., but only to solve graze only right ???

    * PLEASE CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG HERE
     
  2. Warlord Waffle

    Warlord Waffle Well-Known Member

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    boss too dodgy? Crt
    Boss is tough? Crt
    U have low atk? Crt
    U r gei? Crt

    Crt is recommended by 4 out of 5 job branches in Iruna
     
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  3. Shogun Ka-yo!

    Shogun Ka-yo! Active Member

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    im sorry but isnt this like the most obvious thing in any mmorpg?? crit will always hit even if you dont have accuracy/always miss at least in many mmorpgs i played its always like that
     
  4. screamingfox

    screamingfox Well-Known Member

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    I appreciate that your trying to contribute to the knowledge base, but this has been known for years now.

    As for verification. Yes CRT will be prioritized over hit. If a crit happens the hit rate you have will be used towards graze probability. If a crit doesn't happen, hit rate will be used for it's hit rate calculation and then graze calculation if the hit rate calculation confirms a hit.
     
  5. AliceYvne

    AliceYvne Elite Member Elite Member

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    Seriously.....not understand what you try to say.

    Graze = when critical is trigger + normal Atk is miss
    Critical = when critical is trigger + normal Atk not miss

    Master tonfa reduce your basic critical -100%, thus is you don’t have enough Critical rate and Hit rate, sure you get miss.
    lil empress give +25 critical rate + base 25 and other gear is easy to get +100 CR rate, ofc no miss
    Toy hammer already say given +100 critical rate, unless boss got critical resistance and your don’t have other critical gear / critical stat support, it’s normal you won’t see a miss………

    So, what is the problem?
     
  6. Shivael

    Shivael Well-Known Member

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    it just funny tho.. i mean
    hit which should be affected the hit chance.., not really do much compare to crit stat -_-

    im sorry but its kinda weird for me hahahaha
     
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    Zufeng Well-Known Member

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    Well,if aso decide that crit dmg can also miss,i can't imagine the onslaught of angry players from pretty much every single class
     
  8. lordnamu

    lordnamu New Member

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    Toy never miss cause of +flat crit
    On the other hand you have tonfa with you have negative (-) flat crit
    I think you miss read the negative part
    How is that same?
    of course you will miss isn’t that obvious
    Yes crit is everything in this game
     
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    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    Haha, that's what I thought all this time. Logically speaking you need to hit the target first, and if the attack happens to hit vital point then its a critical hit. The check shouldve been hit chance first then critical check. But no! Somehow critical hit is a whole different type of attack that bypass enemy's Dodge. Well in term of balance there is also evasion, guard and graze so they offset the crit somewhat. But logically it makes no sense. What is a "critical hit" really? Is it a hokuto shinken-like attack? Who knows what it would look like if it were represented in real-life form
     
  10. Red_Fox

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    it's a lucky hit that deals damage even if you swing your sword in the wrong direction :p
     
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  11. screamingfox

    screamingfox Well-Known Member

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    I know that feel. Tbh, the logic of the critical hit system doesn't make sense as it should be a chance of critical on a regular hit as opposed to crit rate overriding the entire system. But, it's Toram/Iruna logic, so i'm not gonna fight it. It's weird but, meh in the end.
     
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    Yeah, just like when you use toy hammer where your attack will always hit.
     

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