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Decoy or Arcane Strike?

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Kurdapyo, Jun 22, 2019.

  1. Kurdapyo

    Kurdapyo Active Member

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    So guys, w/c do you prefer? Decoy or Arcane Strike? (For ampr) cause i find decoy adjustment (down) on not bow/bowgun user this upcoming maintenance, Or am just wrong. I think i should go to 1-2-3 mp combo again, Im using knuckle-dagg btw. Ty in advance!
     
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    Sub md?? Resonance?? Just saying dagger is nice but staff/halb are way better than knucks for dagger.
     
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    Decoy
     
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  4. Kurdapyo

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    Tried knuck-md bro but i dont like attacking in long range. Im using WW on add, lowers my chariot damage. And yes I know knuck-dagg is half bad but im using it, still...
     
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    Decoy all the way
     
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    Why decoy Sir? Can give me an accurate explanation pls? Ty
     
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    Can you explain it to me Sir? Why decoy? Ty
     
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    You could use both
     
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    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    Arcane strike have a rather long animation and you go way too far to the back of the enemy, the buff would also disappear once you use another skill, with how long the animation is, it's a poor man's version of trigger slash. Decoy is still way superior even after considering the casting time, and the nerf.
     
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  10. J.D.X.

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    Arcana is kinda better.
    Less ampr but at least ya don't have to re spam it when the boss is away. Plus a good evade skill.
     
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    Arcane Strike is a skill that puts you behind the enemy and at levels 6+ you gain AMPR +20 even if you miss which is really good. It's great for when you need to urgently evade an aoe, and it costs 0 MP when you use it with save (even if you dont use any skills after it in the combo meaning it's a great ender). Placing you on the other side of the enemy is great for when you are setting up backstab, and it can function the same way finale does, except this can be much better than a smite Finale ender since it can cost 0 MP for 20 AMPR and if you're using Chariot it wont ever happen since you'd be too far away from the enemy meaning you wont have the "Not enough MP" lag.

    Decoy is a minute of pure AMPR, it is the best way to get AMPR in the game right now, but of course it has it's disadvantages. You'll need to recast it when it fades, and it'll only be able to hit in your normal attack range. This doesnt stop many people but bows can use it from 10m away or so and get all the AMPR while others need to stay within 2m of the decoy to get it. However, the AMPR is godly, you can spam infinately with it up since it gives you MP even if it misses, unlike you.
     
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    Stick with decoy
     
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    Short animation, will keep recover mp even if are running from aoe, easier to use and of course more ampr each attack
     
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    But yeah Decoy is getting a nerf and we're not exactly sure how hard the nerf is until we test it
     
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    I used both. Decoy is superior when it comes to AMPR but you'll have to recast every now and then if you're fighting a boss that moves a lot.
    Arcane Strike is just really cool. The animation is really cool. But can be slow if you have low aspd. I also used it for ampr w/kairki when the boss moves a lot.
    Arcane + Decoy is really nice q.q but in general, there's just no competition for Decoy. We don't know yet how hard the nerf will affect the gameplay. Let's just wait.
     
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    Decoy nerf will stop it attack when got hit by boss aoe for 1 sec so if it's in a spike aoe, no ampr for you so........ Pick your poison, decoy or arcane.
     
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    My ASPD for now is 4k+. Is it good? Im using impact-rush-arcane for dps. Not using any drugs for more ASPD. Plus rush gives us +motion speed. Tho cant spam impact-dps like any other player. I don't like ruining proration
     
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    Dang, what a waste.
     
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    Yea, you sure have a lot of SP. I dont have enough SP for that
     
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    Yea, but kinda hard using decoy when boss always moves around. Plus the nerf. We dont know
     

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