How to fix Toram (And solve all MMORPG's biggest grind problem)

That too much work goes for you too lmao. Isnt that the reason why this thread even start cuz grinding takes too much work lolololol

 

My contention was never with what consitutes an enjoyable experience, uncertainty in games or the methods of RNG. My only contention was with the idea that you put forward, that RNG rewards effort. As I explained, it does not. Not in the context of Toram and a similar games. But we seem to be in agreement on this now.

I'm indifferent towards event-locked items. I understand and find myself agreeing to both sides of the discussions regarding them. But on the topic of tokens, it is a system I like because it doesn't lean heavily on RNG as a reward system. A player's time and efforts are rewarded directly alongside the possibility of an rare drop. And the rare drop is made more exciting because it is not hindered by being the player's lone means of progression.

Put simply, I am not saying apples=oranges. I'm saying they are fruit.

I am not saying 1=2, I'm saying they are numbers.

I am not saying real life job=a game. I'm saying they both use time and effort to result in a payout.

You seem to believe that making a comparison is the same as saying something is equal. That is just not true. You can compare a human to monkey. That does not mean you are saying they are the same. Clearly they are not.

 

Not really, more so because mmos keep dying too fast these days by failing to completely evolve for the newer audience.

They do stupid crap like making leveling easier when the end game is still the same. Toss in automatic features yet not change the base system.

Honestly, it's real disappointing to even see ab mmo advertisement these days. They are more just glorified casinos rather than avtual games which show solid progression towards a point.

Toram has potential, just drop in an item matrix and you have roles for everyone, no excessive updates and new skills required. Just patch in stuff and make it relevant.

 

The thing is because the two u compare are not equal, then the result of the comparison will not be equal as well. It's like comparing the speed of a bike into a car that's going in the same location. They are both vehicle, but will u compare how fast the speed of a car will travel into the speed of the bike. Of course u can compare it, but their results will be different. It makes the comparison useless on my view, becoz the results were clearly not equal value.

 

Weirdly though, mostly MMOs from Korea and Chinese are almost like money-making machines instead. As if different titles are just copies and others just bought the right to the I.P to fuel nostalgia (Old Mabinogi, Ragnarok). Heck, there's a lot of Ragnarok titles in the mobile market for some reason. Rather than glorified casinos its a dirty pyramid scheme. Whales and bots are somewhat tolerated as they fish out small fries to spend time and money on these p2w crap.

 

Those p2w crap has auto system and a non rng gameplay which you would need to buy vip to get that u need to buy the best item in shop for only limited time crap thats the reason why mmos are dying. Everyone on mmo genre now adays are just a copy paste of everything. Thats why toram is so different.

They dont involve on being a p2w ur ingame luck will give u the edge. If your unlucky today u can try tomorrow. Grindiness of toram is pretty normal if u compare it to those non p2w titles.
Players also have the freedom to cuztomize their equipment depending on their liking.

Open trade system which wont be handled by the price matrix like u said since it would be a playerxplayer interaction so even if they implement price matrix in board it would only be usefull for small items like eb etc. But for xtals and op items i bet ppl will go to sofya and sell their items instead

 

Well,there is an unknown risk to every situation in the end, it's up to the devs on whether or not they want to implement it.

 

Still dunno what was the point of making a game like Dragon Raja and having it play itself (~_~)

 

A weekly or daily spina boss hunt quest would be amazing. I stopped playing when i went broke from trying to update my katana and couldn't be bothered farming mobs for hours and hours repetetively just to do gambling again.

I remember when they released the side quest with a hefty amount of spina as a reward, the scorpion quest thing. It was a bountiful week for everyone. The market was booming. I was able to sell the over abundant venena crystals and statted gears in a few days. The market was alive. I was progressing and having fun building new classes. But when it got nerfed i was pretty much dry again and alas i stopped playing.

 

Yeah, a seasonal quest like, Defeat Cerberus, Pillar Golem, Forestia and Brutal Dragon Decel on Normal to get 10000 spina would be awesome for new players.

And defeat the same on nightmare to get 100,000 spina. Because the ones who can defeat them on nightmare are already rich players.

Then Defeat Vulture, Seele Zauga, Iconos and York on Ultimate 5 times to get 1 million spina.

 

I can already see bots filling up servers even more.

 

Once every month?
What for? It's just a seasonal quest with a one time reward. Not a repeatable quest.

Even if they did bot they wouldn't get any more spina than ones who have skill.

 

how to fix toram :
Restrict emulator user to access toram online to decrease bot population and improve cheat app detection (like gameguardian). how about that?

 

Impossible to fully implement in an auto target game.

Where virtual methods fail, physical will rise.

To get rid of bots you have to completwly remove the auto target system. This means making toram a true action mmo rather than this simulation we have going now.

 

well, you are right. but there's no chance asobimo will doing it because toram online is a dress up mmorpg, not a true action mmo.

 

About that, rich players can just buy a high lvl account/make a new one, transfer their tradable OP items, and farm those rewards. Skill? Haven't you heard the horde of BOTs swarming Tuscog? Yes, TUSCOG... A high lvl boss but BOTs just spam farming it and I guess they could get 1-4 crystas(per BOT) a day. The market would be ruined further if that suggestion somehow occurred...

 

I do agree in their announcement that "they'll use half of their resources to ban/eliminate/prevent BOTs" but I doubt it'll be effective + timely + quick.

 

Ran out of spina and that was a good reason to take a break lol
now i tha that i am back i am going to use those crap weapons made by that juice azz blacksmith

 

this how you fix the Toram problem :
you dont , you quit toram like me and move on. this game is super trash dont even know why yall still suffer this ruined mmo. There is so much other options now

 

Give examples of better.